Bikers collide with Police car in Buller Gorge (1 December)

**skidMark** · 3rd December 2007, 20:34

from the police chief of that unit ( i think) in the stuff article..

"At this stage, it's an accident that has some unusual aspects. We had two bikes that hit a vehicle, but because it involved a police vehicle, and because of the likely public scrutiny, we have to ensure everything is done properly."

so what since it's a police car they ensure it's done properly...

does this mean they do not normally?

oh this other crash doesnt involve police so fuckit well do a halfarse job so we can get back to dishing out tickets...and have lunch?

dickheads

**kr250** · 3rd December 2007, 20:40

Try a u turn in front of a police bike and see where you stand, double standards?

**spudchucka** · 3rd December 2007, 21:29

Originally Posted by doc

You not done grief 101 yet ?

I've just graduated "not giving a stuff 2007".

**MaxB** · 3rd December 2007, 22:55

On my way back to work this morning I was travelling north along Roscommon Road when a cop pulled out on me from a free turn, no signal, no give way nothing. This is not unusual for up here. The road was packed and everyone was well under the speed limit. I could only move to the right hand lane to avoid it. I was pretty angry but stopped myself from mouthing off, after all I had seen his bullshit move coming a mile off.
When I looked into the car he had what looked like er frequent customers of his in the back seat and they were all talking/shouting at once. He was coming from the direction of ther new womens prison so maybe there was a clue there. He looked pretty stressed.
In any case he allowed himself to get distracted and almost caused an acciedent. I reckon as the cops become more and more stretched they are going to make even more mistakes.

**spudchucka** · 4th December 2007, 04:25

Originally Posted by MaxB

In any case he allowed himself to get distracted and almost caused an acciedent. I reckon as the cops become more and more stretched they are going to make even more mistakes.

A fair comment is a rare thing around here.

**Patch** · 4th December 2007, 05:22

Bugger being the poor lads coming round the corner and seeing no where to go. Whats the bet, the chap in ICU hit the rear wheel - worse possible place to hit a car (over the wheels), aim for the doors if you have too.

People do dumb things, doesn't matter what uniform they wear, gotta feel for the cop, betcha he's hating that decision to u-turn where he did about now.

Here's hoping the three chap's pull through ok, mentally and physically.

**mdooher** · 4th December 2007, 07:43

The strange thing about the cop doing the threee point turn on a bend was the backing he was getting from his boss. He seemed a pains to indicate that it would be someone elses fault.
Very strange because in my experience Police management usually hang their staff out to dry.

Thinking of U turns reminds me that when the southern motorway went in in Dunedin a few years ago the paper interviewd a cop that wanted breaks in the cheese cutter so he could do U turns and chase speeding drivers.

If this is the kind of thinking of the modern police driver I think they need a serious slapping.

**Paul in NZ** · 4th December 2007, 08:05

Terrible situation for everyone - sympathy to the poor guys injured as it must have been a real buttock clencher and I would have hated to have to deal with that on the road.

As a casual observation, there is too much misplaced anger here...

Some bikers always trot out the line 'we must support them as they are brother bikers' but are amazed that the Police have a natural tendency to support their brother officers? I'm fairly sure some kind of justice will be done but it will take a bit of time for everything to fall out.

In the short term - to those that know the 2 gents concerned, the real question is, 'is anything we 'brother bikers' can do to assist them or their families while they are injured?'

**terbang** · 4th December 2007, 08:07

Anyone doing a youey, for whatever reason, on a bend and taking out a couple of bikers is a dick and needs a severe shafting with the law. Cop, Joe bloggs or whoever, it shouldn't change things, he's still a dick.. Christ, over here they'd cut he's head off for it, kinda makes people a bit more careful.
Such a shame people who were enjoying a ride lost their lives because of stupidity. RIP bikers.

**Paul in NZ** · 4th December 2007, 08:16

Originally Posted by terbang

Anyone doing a youey, for whatever reason, on a bend and taking out a couple of bikers is a dick and needs a severe shafting with the law. Cop, Joe bloggs or whoever, it shouldn't change things, he's still a dick..

And I'm sure he feels a real dick as well but how about doing something to help your brothers rather than wasting energy getting angry at a guy that made a mistake he will undoubtedly pay for...

Remember that It is not the situation that makes the man, but the man who makes the situation. You can't change whats happened and you can't help your 'brothers' by spouting venom here but maybe you could do something constructive to help?

**slimjim** · 4th December 2007, 08:17

my only problem is when thy showed the police car on the new's there was no side damage to the cop car all the damage was frontal - damage on the car ?

**Katman** · 4th December 2007, 08:18

Originally Posted by MaxB

after all I had seen his bullshit move coming a mile off.........

..........and almost caused an accident.

Sorry, if you saw his move a mile off why was there almost an accident?

**terbang** · 4th December 2007, 08:22

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

And I'm sure he feels a real dick as well but how about doing something to help your brothers rather than wasting energy getting angry at a guy that made a mistake he will undoubtedly pay for...

Remember that It is not the situation that makes the man, but the man who makes the situation. You can't change whats happened and you can't help your 'brothers' by spouting venom here but maybe you could do something constructive to help?

So pointing out stupidity, instead of cops, costing a life on a public forum wont provoke thought huh... Have a wee think about the spouting venom words there mate..

**Paul in NZ** · 4th December 2007, 08:38

Originally Posted by terbang

So pointing out stupidity, instead of cops, costing a life on a public forum wont provoke thought huh... Have a wee think about the spouting venom words there mate..

Good grief.... I give up....

**oldrider** · 4th December 2007, 08:43

Without any intention cop bashing, my wife and I have witnessed too many of these dangerous U-turn maneuvers by Police cars, over the last few years.

On at least one occasion, we very nearly got the same treatment as the victims of the above incident!

Police car we were following (without warning) pulled quickly hard left swung back out into the road and completed a fast U-turn.

I began to veer right to clear his fast left, then had to get round the back of him as he swung across in front of us! (Oh so close)

Our combined 90 years of motorcycling experience went into overdrive and just got us through that one by a whisker!

We were not happy motorcyclists for quite a while after that on that trip.(Shaken and very very stirred)

I tend to stay well back when following Police cars now because of that incident!

John.