Wanganui street races

[scott411]

here are some facts to get me shot down here,

i raced wanganui last year, and i am a Motard rider (farm boy, chook chaser or what ever other derogatory term you want to use)

i watched most classes last year, and the F1 and F2 feilds were not full, yet they turned motard riders away, so go where the numbers of riders are, also some the F1 feild were on 600's anyway (Bernards aussie boys just rode each others bikes instead of the R1's they had sitting in the pits) if the classes can;t be filled let other guys in, ALso with the banning of motard bikes out of F3 they had to put the guys that entered that class somewhere

as for limiting the sidecars, i can see why thye did it, their was a huge difference in speed last year, however i think a classic/post classic class would be good to watch, however which class do you drop to make it, the lowest entered one, Because the way i here it bears only had 12 entries until they started letting motards in their as well.

just my thoughts,

PS
Also i got my entry form for Pearoa, i thought the covering letter slagging off wanganui for thier choices was a bit off, we are to smaller sport to get infighting like this,

edit: The Riders and Fans will make the final call on if the new format works, if the fans do not turn up, then the club will have to change, same with the riders,

[Deano]

Also i got my entry form for Pearoa, i thought the covering letter slagging off wanganui for thier choices was a bit off,

I got the letter too, and while Paeroa did express disappointment at Wanganui's decision, I wouldn't call it slagging off. In fact, didn't they wish them well with their new direction ?

[Reckless]

I'm not a racer so correct me if I'm wrong here.
As you can see I have a classic bike and with my karting background (we raced at whanganui a couple of times) we get five races at a kart meeting. I was thinking that with the post classics for example, do you think they will be interested in coming for just two races? All that organising, tuning, motels, money etc for two races?? I say this cause I was wandering through the pits at Paeroa and they where pretty pissed at their 3rd race getting canned in favour of the motards. I think I heard the words Cross entering classes, sponsorship and money where mentioned. A lot of the crowd also go to watch the Bears, classics and post classics (in my case). The motards are exciting to watch, and I suppose times move on, but there is still alot of the crowd that love the old bikes. If the riders decide not to spend all that cash for 2 races then there is bears and classics you don't have to worry about. Is this the officials way of eliminating these classes as next year they may be able to say "there's not enough entries" so we wont run that class!
Just my 2 cents, its just a shame to see the old bike classes dying!!!

[scott411]

I say this cause I was wandering through the pits at Paeroa and they where pretty pissed at their 3rd race getting canned in favour of the motards.

i am not sure what you mean, the motards only got 2 races like everyone else at paeroa,

and i understand completly in what you mean about 2 races, it is a very long weekend for 2 6 laps races,

[Reckless]

Scott I didn't realise that. I'm sure I saw motards out more than twice, but if you where racing I'm not questioning you. As I said i was only hanging in the pits. Maybe it was because at Paeroa they could cross enter other classes and have more races if they chose to. I understand from this thread that won't happen at Whanganui.
haha if you compare what we are talking here to Dangers attitude in our off road threads, where he isn't keen on loading his MX bike on the trailer to race unless he can ride it for a few hours each ride or the time we have on the MX bikes on a Trialblazer or MR motorcycles ride. Jeepers some guys do a 40k loop 5 times or more. 12 laps road racing plus motels seems pretty ??? from a riders point of view. I couldn't afford it.
Although I did only two demonstration races in a day at whanganui in my kart and will never forget it!

[roogazza]

The fact that F1 and 2 are combined is a real worry . The main attraction events obviously can't fill a grid , so why don't the powers that be take a good hard look at the format and try to boost Bears, Post classic, or even just Classics ? ( F3, clubmans ,whatever...)
Maybe its time to return to good old production racing ? (no mods just Production).
Motard is a separate sport and I reckon should stay that way.

Lost me sorry , I'm off for my own fang that day !

My cents worth. Gaz.

[Reckless]

Production no mods......you might have a point there. Shop floor 600's and 1000's are very very fast these days. We'd have to make them noisier though! Tail section slip ons only.
anyway enough of this back to work!

[sunhuntin]

I'm not a racer so correct me if I'm wrong here.
As you can see I have a classic bike and with my karting background (we raced at whanganui a couple of times) we get five races at a kart meeting. I was thinking that with the post classics for example, do you think they will be interested in coming for just two races? All that organising, tuning, motels, money etc for two races?? I say this cause I was wandering through the pits at Paeroa and they where pretty pissed at their 3rd race getting canned in favour of the motards. I think I heard the words Cross entering classes, sponsorship and money where mentioned. A lot of the crowd also go to watch the Bears, classics and post classics (in my case). The motards are exciting to watch, and I suppose times move on, but there is still alot of the crowd that love the old bikes. If the riders decide not to spend all that cash for 2 races then there is bears and classics you don't have to worry about. Is this the officials way of eliminating these classes as next year they may be able to say "there's not enough entries" so we wont run that class!
Just my 2 cents, its just a shame to see the old bike classes dying!!!

the old bikes and sidecars are what i go to see... motards do not interest me beyond watching one or two laps. i certainly dont want to watch them all day. as said, i will be there, but chances are i will also be wandering the pits if i can, taking photos of the real bikes and their riders.

[scott411]

i like the vareity in the streets, i like watching most classes, i like how close you can get to the racing, if i was watching F1 bikes all day it would be boring, same with sidecars, and same with motards, its the variety that makes it fun to watch,
it was a big call to put another motard class in, but i presume it was numbers driven and the fact that the other classes wanted the motard bikes out of their races,

[Joni]

it was a big call to put another motard class in, but i presume it was numbers driven and the fact that the other classes wanted the motard bikes out of their races,

So why not play it fair and say "OK motards you get your own class as they have, but you are limited to x amount of bikes in your 2 races"

Surely fairness is what its all about....

Of course last year there was a great responce to the Motards, they got their own new spanky "off road" bit.... that does not make them more popular, more interesting than any other class... it was just last years "wank value"...

Each spectator goes for their own reasons... I could not give two poops about the Motards myself... but love the sidecars for obvious reasons (go Divvo and Kick) and will be yelling my lungs out for White Trash.

[sunhuntin]

but the stupid thing about the motard track is the fact is highly surrounded by freckin bushes! if you want a spot where you can see, ya gotta there at least 2 races BEFORE it starts, and sit there staring a dirt path for ages. if theyre gonna keep it, it needs to be done so everyone can see.
i tried to get a few pics last year, but couldnt cos all the spots were taken, and the rest was shrubs.

[scott411]

So why not play it fair and say "OK motards you get your own class as they have, but you are limited to x amount of bikes in your 2 races"

Surely fairness is what its all about....

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as with everyclass their is a cut off, i think it is 40 bikes, and 20 sidecars, (don't quote me) if the 2 motrad classes are not full i presume they will return to 1 class next year, (i know the 450 class is full now, unsure on the bigger class)

at wanganui they do not let you cross enter bikes, it is one bike one class, if you want to ride 2 classes you need to bikes, i have heard they started letting motards into bears as well as entries were very low at the close off,

[Joni]

as with everyclass their is a cut off, i think it is 40 bikes, and 20 sidecars, (don't quote me) if the 2 motrad classes are not full i presume they will return to 1 class next year, (i know the 450 class is full now, unsure on the bigger class)

So if the 2 classes are full? and it looks like more are on the way? Will there be yet another Motard class next year? Pfft, stay consistent, and stay fair to all participants...

And yes I know about the "cross entering" situation/rule as well.

[jrandom]

I could not give two poops about the Motards myself... but love the sidecars for obvious reasons (go Divvo and Kick) and will be yelling my lungs out for White Trash.

Personally, I plan on being solidly drunk by the time the racing starts, so I'll just be generally yelling my lungs out.

[Joni]

Personally, I plan on being solidly drunk by the time the racing starts, so I'll just be generally yelling my lungs out.

I look forward to having a laugh at your expence

However the racing starts fairly early, so I suggest start drinking the night before, get a few hours sleep, wake up still pissed and keep going... else you will never reach your goal of being "solidly drunk by the time the racing starts"

Look forward to seeing you Dan.