For Fucks Sake! Fourth fucking bin! Give me a break!

[xwhatsit]

You don't sound like a clown.

Get an experienced rider to take your bike for a short spin. Rule out at least one variable.

It was very slippery today, though. I ride in all weather, every day -- but today was particularly nasty, as it's been sunny for a long time then all of a sudden it hosed down. Even the, erm, `throttle friendly' 250RS spun up a couple of times trying to get an edge on the cagers off the lights.

[oldrider]

Good on you, when the going gets tough, the tough get going, the odds will go with you soon. Good luck. Cheers John.

[ital916]

Thanks for the support guys. Gonna have a rest for a few days, my knees still pretty sore. Nah my gf doesn't ride..she really wants me to give up biking, in fact she asked me yesterday hypothetically "if i was to say give up biking or the relationship my reply would be"...........i'll get back to ya in the distant future lol

[PirateJafa]

All things considered, I suspect it is safest for you to hold onto my hi-vis vest for a while yet!

[Subike]

Thanks for the support guys. Gonna have a rest for a few days, my knees still pretty sore. Nah my gf doesn't ride..she really wants me to give up biking, in fact she asked me yesterday hypothetically "if i was to say give up biking or the relationship my reply would be"...........i'll get back to ya in the distant future lol

If you ever let another person bribe you to stop riding, and you stop. Or anything in life for that matter.
You will never forgive yourself.
If your G F dont like it, then why is she your G F. At your age there are plenty out there.
Keep in there bud, you are doing just fine. binning on tarmac hurts, but you are learning , and with a lot of confidence too.
I congratulate you on your honesty and determination.
As said by others, this will be greatly reduced as you learn, and also because of it, you will become a very good rider, one that will be hard to pace with on the tight stuff when you get a bigger bike.
Enjoy you Xmas, and love that little bike to death. its teaching you well

[cowboyz]

It is not very surprising how kiwibiker has come round to such a holding hands, group hugs PC forum these days but really? Alot of comment about people dont know what he could have done to avoid it? Well you could practice some defensive driving and watch ahead to what is coming. A splatter of diesel on the road can be hard to see but a pool? When you noticed something odd about the road in front of you you should have scrubbed off as much speed as possible before hitting the spill and then stood the bike up as much as you could and rode through it.
Go find the BRONZ RRRS course and after you have completed it you will probably find the "biker gods" will be nicer to you.

[ital916]

fair cop mate but you do realise it was pouring like a fucking thunder storm yesterday which equals nearly zero vis. I had my high beam on was taaking a 40 corner at 20 was looking as far ahead as i could and trust me you probably think it's an easy thing to spot but diesel in pouring rain. I didn't even know it was there till i hit it. Even at a slow speed the bike slid a fair way. The road was so slippery i fell over when i got up lol That said yes i will go for the RRRS course. Oh and i don't find kiwibiker touchy feely but the fact that people have given me a bit of support will greatly help in my confidence at getting back up and riding.lol

[Gubb]

Jeez, wouldn't all our lives be so much easier if they put flourescent pink dye in diesel?! Bastard stuff!!

That's not a bad idea. Might even stop 'dem Boyracers using the stuff on the roads 'cause "it's a bit gay".

[Katman]

Stop blaming all and sundry for your misfortune. There's no such thing as "biker gods".

[Crisis management]

Bad luck with the offs, now you need to learn to stay on the bike.......

As others have said, do the RRRS course and learn to control the bike, avoid the dangerous stuff and ride defensively. Expect there to be variable traction on the road, expect there to be slippery tar strips, diesel spills, someone to cut you off, brake suddenly and for you to make mistakes.

Make sure you have a decent set of tyres on the bike. By decent I mean rubber that will let you know it's getting near the limits of traction and then slide controllably when you get beyond that limit. Without good tyres you are wasting your time trying to learn to control the bike. Spend the money......

Now that the bike is slightly used looking take the opportunity to abuse it a bit more! Go onto some gravel roads and try riding on that. This will teach you about balance, limited traction and sliding, all at low speeds with minimal potential for damage.

Failing all this well meaning advice HTFU.

Now, have I missed anything out?



Seriously, its about good tyres and rider skills, it's that simple.

[MSTRS:Me]

As I wasn't there, I don't know what you were not doing that 'may' have helped avoid this off. You have been having some serious bad luck, but there is always some thing that you could do that will reduce the 'bad luck'. That is what it means to be a learner - repeated 'bad luck' until you start doing things 'right'.
Not to say that the best riders wouldn't have lost it in a pool of diesel either...
The RRRS course is the next step for you.
And the tyre comment by CrisisM....he is absolutely right. RGs usually have the shittiest tyres fitted - I mean, so bad that they should carry warnings that they will kill you if you even think about cornering or wet roads. If you can, get GP100s or equivalent

[Tank]

Diesel is indeed a bitch. Like everyone else I wasnt there - so I cannot comment about that accident.

However this is your 4th off? In one of your other post you said "Im not a bad rider".

In this thread you said "Well anyway call me what you want but i'm not a bad rider, but i must have pissed some biker god off in my past life."

What it looks like to me is that you are riding above your ability over all. Im not saying that you are riding like a bat out of hell, or being stupid - but more that your level of confidence is greater than your skill level at this point.

+1 on the comments about the courses, or some of the really good mentor groups here on KB.

Glad to hear you are not giving it up - take it slowly, ride safe and enjoy!

C

[yungatart]

Four bins and you are still keen....definitely a hard man! I think I would have given up.
But since you want to carry on riding and presumably, live to tell the tale, get yourself an experienced rider as your mentor, do RRRS, and get those tyres checked.
And remember, it is SHINY SIDE UP!

[MSTRS:Me]

Ever wonder why experienced riders seem to be "luckier"?
It is because they have learned to read the subtle danger signals, before they become a problem. One thing that you must learn to do is to look well ahead because this will give you more time to react and adjust your riding before you get to the hazard. If you look 3 feet in front of your front wheel you will have no time to react. And learn to use your peripheral vision as well.
Riding a bike safely is not limited to just handling the bike itself.

[babyblade250rr]

sorry to hear about your run of bad luck friend, it's seem as though this one was unavoidable! damn diesel and damn boyracers!!