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Thread: What does the oil look like in yer engine at high revs?

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    you also are forgetting that a lot of the oil is passed around as vapour not just oil splashing about

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007XX View Post
    Since I learnt that wikipedia is freely amended by members of the general public (aka: anyone that has an opinion ), I have decided to take its version of facts with a grain of salt...I like straight hard scientific facts, not the opinion of just any self professed know it all.

    But thanks for the linky anyway
    LOL WUT

    And KB is different how?!

    When I was checking ignition timing, you pull of a little inspection plug on the flywheel cover while the engine is running. Wet sump yada yada. Whirry whirry! Splash. Wasn't frothy, though. Looked like normal oil except splashier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007XX View Post
    Since I learnt that wikipedia is freely amended by members of the general public (aka: anyone that has an opinion ), I have decided to take its version of facts with a grain of salt...I like straight hard scientific facts, not the opinion of just any self professed know it all.

    But thanks for the linky anyway
    "Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow"

    If someone puts up something that is incorrect, because its open to the general public, it'll get picked up and corrected

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steam View Post
    Does the oil get all frothed and foamed up in the open spaces, or does it form a mist from all the whizzing spinning parts, or does it stay gluggy and mostly stuck to the parts, or what?
    Does it get bubbly and aerated?

    And how fast is it being pumped around by the oil pump? A couple of litres a minute, or faster? It would depend on the bike of course.

    I was visualising a running engine the other day and I realised I don't really know how oil behaves when in extreme motion. Water I can imagine, we all know what that looks like when agitated. But not oil.
    Last night I spoke with one of the small people who work for Caltex and clean the inside of your engine They told me that at start up it was not unlike the Hooker falls and cruising it was like the Waikato river. I dare not say that out loud or Tainui will want a slice of the action or Uncle Helen will ask for carbon credits so consider this a whisper in a friendly ear.
    Caution is not a substitute for skill :no

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    "Grumpy" Jenkins (American builder of small and big block chev drag race motors in the 70's was interested in this question. He put windows into the side of engines to see what the oil was up to. Found that at high revs, most of the oil was wrapped around the crankshaft like a thick rope, killing power and also starving the pump pickup, leading to bearing failure. Deep sumps and windage scrapers to get the oil away from the crank raised power significantly. Dry sumping was even better. He said that at full revs there should be less than a quart of oil (out of a gallon or so) in the engine, the rest should be back in the tank (filter, cooler, pipes)
    Even though its about car engines, his book "the Chevrolet Racing Engine" has a whole lot of good, useful information
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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxesdaphat View Post
    LOL WUT

    And KB is different how?!

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    Smartarse...

    Difference with KB? A lot of the people on here I have met in person, and I can make my own mind up as to whether they are full of it or not, and therefor follow their advice...or not!

    Quote Originally Posted by Delphinus View Post
    "Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow"

    If someone puts up something that is incorrect, because its open to the general public, it'll get picked up and corrected
    Hmmmm, maybe in a perfect world...but it is still very much subjected to grey areas, ruled by personal opinions and preferences. Not sure I'd buy it, sorry!



    On a more on topic note, I am very happy to report that the oil in my sump is looking mighty fine these days, after a much deserved oil change took place before my track day
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
    Time to cut out the "holier/more enlightened than thou" bullshit and the "slut" comments and let people live honestly how they like providing they're not harming themselves or others in the process.

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