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    Because they look like teapots. Sheesh.
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    If the price is right and you like the bike just go for it - that engine has been around a long time and is well proven.
    I believe the main thing you are worried about is the reliability of this engine?

    http://gstwin.com/racers_corner.htm

    They have been raced a lot overseas!

    A google for 'gs500 racing' finds all sort of goodies available!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spuds1234 View Post
    Does anyone know where the name Teapot came from for the modern crappy looking Katanas?
    crappy loooking ? ,probly the old oil cooled engine and how it gets very hot ... or the bubbly shaped fairiing
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    Nothing to do with the engine, and they don't get hot. I get toastier feet on my liquid cooled Zed than I ever got on the GSX600.

    IT'S BECAUSE THEY LOOK LIKE A FREAKING TEAPOT. HAVE YOU PEOPLE NEVER SEEN A PROPER TEAPOT OR SOMETHING?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    Nothing to do with the engine, and they don't get hot. I get toastier feet on my liquid cooled Zed than I ever got on the GSX600.

    IT'S BECAUSE THEY LOOK LIKE A FREAKING TEAPOT. HAVE YOU PEOPLE NEVER SEEN A PROPER TEAPOT OR SOMETHING?




    Not at tea pot in that shape.

    But when you put it in that light, I suppose your quite right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    Nothing to do with the engine, and they don't get hot. I get toastier feet on my liquid cooled Zed than I ever got on the GSX600.
    well i can tel you i get very hot legs and boots when rideing mine ..... and its seems to come with the territory of owning one ,mind you its got a stg 1 jet kit and ignition advancer which definitely add to the heat production
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie View Post
    All good info thanks.
    How about this then? If I had a couple of similar cc bikes, one liquid-cooled and the other air-cooled, and treated them in the same manner (not thrashed, serviced regularly), would you expect them to have about the same lifespan?
    I'm utterly inexperienced in this regard, but the way I see it (coming from a computing point of view) is that liquid cooling is yet another very complicated subsystem, requiring lots of maintenance, that is prone to failure in many ways. I mean the chance of it failing isn't very high, but there are still many ways it can break down. How many times have you heard of air-cooling fins falling off on a bike?

    You hear all the time about the thermostats failing on water cooled bikes, with the potential result of them overheating rather badly in traffic or idling when the fan doesn't switch on. Holed radiator. Leak in the plumbing somewhere. Something else to worry about if the head gasket blows.

    When people talk about reliability and toughness, I always think about the consumer dirt bikes (i.e. not strung-out MXers). Single cylinder, drum brakes, spokes, carburettored, and air-cooled.

    Of course, it won't go as quick as a liquid-cooled bike I suppose, despite the lighter weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spuds1234 View Post
    Does anyone know where the name Teapot came from for the modern crappy looking Katanas?
    AFAIK the plastic teapot nickname came from the late 80s GSX600F models. There was a white with red trim version that looked like the first plastic kettles and teapots which came out around the same time. Even the slight off white colour was damn near identical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    If the price is right and you like the bike just go for it - that engine has been around a long time and is well proven.
    I believe the main thing you are worried about is the reliability of this engine?
    Yep, you got it. Reliability is a big consideration. Horsepower is only slightly more than my 400 as is the weight so I'm expecting performance will be about the same but with a different delivery (2cyl vs 4cyl). Price is certainly good for a brand new bike and hey ... it was Mrs Oakie who suggested I look for a new bike and I wouldn't want to disappoint her would I?

    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    http://gstwin.com/racers_corner.htm

    They have been raced a lot overseas!

    A google for 'gs500 racing' finds all sort of goodies available!
    That was an interesting read. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    IT'S BECAUSE THEY LOOK LIKE A FREAKING TEAPOT. HAVE YOU PEOPLE NEVER SEEN A PROPER TEAPOT OR SOMETHING?


    Thats not a teapot thats one of those things you piss in when you can't get out of bed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxB View Post
    AFAIK the plastic teapot nickname came from the late 80s GSX600F models. There was a white with red trim version that looked like the first plastic kettles and teapots which came out around the same time. Even the slight off white colour was damn near identical.
    lol and there Jim2 was saying it was directed at the late models "crappy" katanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry H View Post
    Thats not a teapot thats one of those things you piss in when you can't get out of bed!
    Bed pan anyone?
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    Yeah, get the GS, they are really nice bikes. Had a blat on the naked version, had a bit of go and felt really comfortable, didnt so much the upright seating position of the gs500f though, felt too much like an enduro bike, but i guess some urban design (i think) clip on style bars would sort that out...

    You can get all sorts of shinies for the gs:

    39mm keihin carbs:

    http://www.oldbikebarn.com/Street/20...-Carburetors_3

    Yoshimuira shinies:

    http://www.yoshimura-rd.com/ps-3262-...m-slip-on.aspx

    Engine guards are available for about $80 for a set from a place like colemans

    Raask rear sets:

    http://www.raask.se/fs10.jpg

    You can get a 550 big bore/high compression kit from Wisecon and/or JE pistons aswel...

    Aww man, it would be way fun to race an old gs500... might have to look into it after the 'blade is all payed off...

    Anyone here know what classes a 500 twin is elligible to race in? Forumla 3 obviously but SV's would have a cc advantage no?

    Back on topic. Yeah, its a great bike, don't let the air cooling put you off, nothing wrong with a bit of air cooling :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet250Boy View Post
    lol and there Jim2 was saying it was directed at the late models "crappy" katanas
    It's the same bike.

    It's directed at the entire line of GSX600/750F's.

    You might actually try reading some history sometime and you'll see that an entire industry ahas referred to them as teapots for their entire history.

    It doesn't all start with you, sonny.

    http://www.katanatom.co.uk/pagemaker.php?page=teapot
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