Street racing; making up rules as they go..??..

[MyGSXF:Me]

but you just said I cant?!

good call.. give it a few months & you'll be back!!! it runs in ya veins now mate!!!!

crashing at Levels didn't put me off going back!

you crashed???!! shit.. were you ok???

This blimmin SV ruling tho, still find it strange they didnt allow them in...

Yeah.. not sure what's up with that one A friends brother had one there.. will have to ask him to see what the goss is!

[steve74]

effective 1 July 2007

4-3 Twin cylinder four strokes shall be limited as follows:

a) Up to 500cc, no restrictions apart from fuel as above.

b) Over 500cc, two valves per cylinder, are restricted to 750cc and fuel as above, over 640cc must not be water-cooled.

c) Over 500cc three or more valves per cylinder, are restricted to 650cc and fuel as above.

Additionally these machines must retain the standard OEMair box, air filter element and
carburettor (with the exception of removable jets or throttle body, including injector).


I see the problem - I was told by the officals on the day that watercooled 650cc machines were not allowed as per mnz rule book. the rules that apply to a 4 valve per cylinder SV650 are C.

The watercooling rule only applys to 2 valve engines, am i right???

[Jorja]

SV650,hyusung650 and ER6 are all covered under rule 4-3.c

[TonyB]

The watercooling rule only applys to 2 valve engines, am i right???

I believe so. Also it appears that machines covered by C must retain the stock airbox bla bla bla

[TonyB]

I posted this elsewhere:

I talked to a couple of the organisers today. I don't want to quote what they said on here as I don't want to miss-quote them, but it turns out there are very good and well considered reasons for closing off Rogers Street, and for running the track clockwise. The reasons are many, and fairly complex, (hence I don't want to risk getting it all backwards on here), and I can see why they do what they do, and I now fully agree with it.

I wanted to talk to them about the SV ruling and the safety car, but I didn't have time- MrsB and the kids had been waiting in the car for 1/2 an hour already in the hot sun.

What I will say is this. I now realize that there is little point in speculating/grumbling or whatever about an event like this on an internet forum. There are clearly a huge number of very complex issues that go into shaping the nature and format of a street meeting. Only a handfull of very dedicated people are involved in organising one of these meetings, and these people are the only people who hold ALL the facts, and can explain why things were done as they were. If we as racers have an issue with the way a meeting was or is being run, they are the only people worth talking to. And I'm willing to bet that once we do talk to them, we will understand exactly why the organisers came to the decisions they did. I personally am going to try and refrain from posting in a thread like this in the future. Unless of course I have the facts from the organisers.

[steve74]

I personally am going to try and refrain from posting in a thread like this in the future. Unless of course I have the facts from the organisers.

Fair enough tony. I understand your reasons. However i became a member of this forum in an attempt to get feedback on the Greymouth event. Im Vice President of the Greymouth street race commitee and to be honest we dont get a lot of feedback from riders. I race F3 and motard and dont have the time i would like at prize giving to see how the BEARS/Buckets/classics etc feel about the event. I find this forum a fantastic tool, All topics discussed about our event on this forum are reported by myself to our committee to help improve our event and ensure the riders who provide the spectacle are happy. If any questions are asked i try to explain as best i can.

So please dont stop commenting on the Greymouth event. I will be starting up a topic in the lead up to the next event to inform competitors and spectators of changes etc. Positive or negative, if we know about it we can try resolve it. Hopefully all the comments on this topic can be constructively passed on to the nelson team, who i might add did a fantastic job cosidering the tar melt.

[sunhuntin]

just a small note, steve... remember that not all racers and spectators are members here

[Sparky Bills]

The F3 class was great to watch! No one really ran away with it, and there was some VERY close racing!
The day was cut short, but was due to 30+ degree heat melting the road not a pace car screaming around.
The organisers did EXTREMLY well!
Was my 2nd time there and will not be my last!

Well done to all the organisers helpers! YOU ALL ROCK!!

[Rashika]

... I find this forum a fantastic tool, All topics discussed about our event on this forum are reported by myself to our committee to help improve our event and ensure the riders who provide the spectacle are happy. If any questions are asked i try to explain as best i can.

So please dont stop commenting on the Greymouth event. I will be starting up a topic in the lead up to the next event to inform competitors and spectators of changes etc. Positive or negative, if we know about it we can try resolve it. Hopefully all the comments on this topic can be constructively passed on to the nelson team, who i might add did a fantastic job cosidering the tar melt.

do ya think you can do something about the rain for this year? Like telling it to come back the next day?
Actually it was kinda cool to have someone who could say straightout why things get done the way they do... and we get to see/hear the effort you guys put in. Still the best street race in NZ I reckon, very entertaining for both racers and spectators. Loved the motard bit (and glad i didn't do it!) but great to watch.

just a small note, steve... remember that not all racers and spectators are members here

actually quite a few are on KB both racers and spectators, for greymouth I can think of about 10 racers, and prob about 20 or more spectators

[dangerous]

Fair enough tony. I understand your reasons.

Im Vice President of the Greymouth street race commitee and to be honest we dont get a lot of feedback from riders.

i would like at prize giving to see how the BEARS/Buckets/classics etc feel about the event. I find this forum a fantastic tool

Tony gets a bit righteous and OTT PC at times This is the ideal place to find such info out.

Hey vice as you know Im pres of the BMRC, I have done 2 Greymouths and two Nelson meets, Greymouth is awesome nelson is not. I will however be back for both and as far as the BMRC members and post classic crew within our club... dont change nothing, PN crew... take our input in and use it as consructive criticism, we will get there.

[steve74]

I know that from MNZ meetings that i have attended that street raceing as a whole is balancing on a liability thread. So lets just support it while we can. Nelson, greymouth, windham, wanganui, paeroa- All have their negatives and positives. lets just support them all.

[sunhuntin]

actually quite a few are on KB both racers and spectators, for greymouth I can think of about 10 racers, and prob about 20 or more spectators

quite a few, but not all... im betting theres more than 20 spectators at each race, hehe.

[Chrislost]

Street racing sucks anyway. Much better at the track from a spectators point of view.

funking bullshit.
i was bored as funk at taupo watching bikes go past the grandstand.
however the at the BOTS i got to sit in a pub and watch R1s crash around me.

[TonyB]

Tony gets a bit righteous and OTT PC at times

This is the ideal place to find such info out.

For organisers yes, for us- no, not unless a committe member like Steve is on the forum. Otherwise we are all just spouting uninformed BS.

[Rashika]

For organisers yes, for us- no, not unless a committe member like Steve is on the forum. Otherwise we are all just spouting uninformed BS.

yeah but... if people aren't happy with something, and there is no-one to easily hear what they are bitching about how are they (the organisers) gonna know? We tried to suggest changes for nelson, we didn't hear back for 11 months... would you expect things to have changed or been more of the same? If you dont talk to your racers, (who do talk to their spectators as well), what do you expect?

Most people wont put pen to paper cos we (as kiwis) are actually kinda reluctant to complain in writing.
...'cept on KB where we do it all the time

I think having steve74 on here was really good for the promotion of greymouth as well. It certainly got a few extra racers (remember Johnny212's last minute entry ) and spectators along simply from seeing the threads on KB and NZSBF.

The Munro does well partly due to having a fairly ok, tho slow to up date, website, and good responses to queries. We send several emails to them to see if they would have buckets, still no positive to that, but will keep trying. And they have responded quickly. Would love to do that one but timing still hasn't worked yet... one day!