Radars detectors legal?

[imdying]

Fairness? They may have brainwashed you into thinking the current enforcement protocol is fair.

Didn't get done for over a teeny tiny bit over 70 in a 50 on the way to work yesterday... in fact, I'd say I get 1 in 10 of the tickets I deserve, so IME they're all about fairness and leniency.

[spudchucka]

Fairness? They may have brainwashed you into thinking the current enforcement protocol is fair.
But - Ohhh forget it. I'll just have another

+10kph tolerance is fair. Move to Victoria if you don't like it.

[denill]

+10kph tolerance is fair. Move to Victoria if you don't like it.

See, brainwashing does work. It worked well on a lota Germans too in the late 30s, early 40s, who were convinced they too were doing a good job.

[spudchucka]

Ah, the old comparing traffic cops to the Nazi regime of Germany during the 30's trick. Its old material sunshine, please at least try to be original.

+10kph is a 10% tolerance at open road speeds and a 20% tolerance in residential areas, which is really quite fair.

[denill]

Ah, the old comparing traffic cops to the Nazi regime of Germany during the 30's trick. Its old material sunshine, please at least try to be original.

Oh, so I'm not the only one who's noted the similarity?

[Toaster]

Sounds like bullshit to me. They just wants people to buy them quickly before they ban them.

Agreed. Just a sales-pitch to flog off stock and make a dishonest buck.

[denill]

Agreed. Just a sales-pitch to flog off stock and make a dishonest buck.

While it may not be factual, only time will tell on that. It wasn't "Just a sales-pitch to flog off stock and make a dishonest buck" cos you should have read - That I was talked out of fitting an under grill unit on my WRX.

[Toaster]

While it may not be factual, only time will tell on that. It wasn't "Just a sales-pitch to flog off stock and make a dishonest buck" cos you should have read - That I was talked out of fitting an under grill unit on my WRX.

IT SIMPLY WASN'T INTERESTING ENOUGH TO READ THAT FAR.

HAPPY NOW?

[denill]

IT SIMPLY WASN'T INTERESTING ENOUGH TO READ THAT FAR.

HAPPY NOW?

My original post was that it may be of interest to some KBers. If it isn't to you don't read it. But if you want to comment on it, you should read it - otherwise you won't know what you're talking about. As you just did.

[xgnr]

If you drive/ride excessively fast even with a RD you will get caught as in many situations they don't give enough warning. Where they are very effective is giving warning of stationary units targeting vehicles as they enter poorly signed areas (ie speed traps).

Agreed.
Over the last couple of long rides with the new detector it is obvious the (non lazy) cops wait till they close then turn it on. Seem to target bikes it seems to me tho'

One thing that my RD has shown, and made me more aware of is the number of radars around and hence I am very much more aware of my speed.

My Whistler is just a temp sensor and amp meter tho orrrficer... Tui ad comes to mind lol

[Swoop]

That I was talked out of fitting an under grill unit on my WRX.

It is actually a good thing. Why? Simply because the unit that you would have fitted will be detectable to "radar detector detectors".
Having it hidden is one thing, NOT being detectable is another.
Get a Bel STi.

[madandy]

Ah, the old comparing traffic cops to the Nazi regime of Germany during the 30's trick. Its old material sunshine, please at least try to be original.

+10kph is a 10% tolerance at open road speeds and a 20% tolerance in residential areas, which is really quite fair.

But we'd rather the 20% 'tolerance' be on the open roads please

Agreed.
Over the last couple of long rides with the new detector it is obvious the (non lazy) cops wait till they close then turn it on. Seem to target bikes it seems to me tho'

A RD unit with a much better range would go a long way to curing that

One thing that my RD has shown, and made me more aware of is the number of radars around and hence I am very much more aware of my speed.

Makes a strong case for using the doensn't it?

My Whistler is just a temp sensor and amp meter tho orrrficer... Tui ad comes to mind lol

[Grahameeboy]

One thing that might help get a bit of confidence in the Police might be in-car datloggers/cameras that tell when the speed detecting device (eg radar) is used and maybe a GPS unit for location. At the moment the cop has to stand up in court, tell what happened and eveybody is supposed to believe him, even things that may have happened years ago.

In other countries like Germany they have 2 cops per traffic car and an in- car video linked to a calibrated speedo. When they pull over a boy racer they can make the shitbag sit in the patrol car and make him watch his offending. They issue many more tickets for careless/dangerous use and there is virtually no chance of getting away with it once stopped especially as there are 2 reliable witnesses. They still issue speeding tickets but the main focus is on driving behaviour and improving skills, not just slowing down the idiots. Banning radar detectors here will make fuck all difference. I reckon they have it right and we do not.

In UK they have 2 cops for speed traps. Always thought it is a bit dubious when you only have 1 cop here in NZ. At least with 2 you have less ambiguity.

[Grahameeboy]

I have a colleague who owns his own business and was desperate to get his ACC premiums down (too many motor accidents) . I found out over Xmas that he had fitted radar detectors to his 3 company vehicles. Crappy portable units at first, then better plumbed in models. His employees did not have to use the RDs just drive with them in the car/ute. No accidents or tickets in 2 years. RD saving lives? Maybe, that and the threat that anyone caught speeding was not going to get their contract renewed.

I guess when RDs are banned, ACC are going to get some more money.

I read an article from the UK that said that drivers with a radar detector were safe drivers.

[scumdog]

But we'd rather the 20% 'tolerance' be on the open roads please

Ha!
THAT was the case 6-7 years ago - and people still moaned when they got pinged!