Cold canvassing for a fulltime job

[Curious_AJ]

referees can also be people like:

*the tutor of a course you may have done
*College guidance councilor
*volunteer work "boss"
*church minister
*youth group leader

etc etc. Someone who can "vouch" for you, as a person.

If one/two of the above can say things like: you are honest.. a hard worker.. keen to learn.. can work well in a team.. can work well by yourself.. on time.. reliable.. well presented.. etc etc. Then that's the sort of things a prospective employer will like to hear!

Jen

thanks, i forgot about those too lol.. i've never really had any of those .. but now I can use one of the nurses at unitec vets i guess

* Kiwi Biker Moderators.

yeah but we all know I wouldnt do that

[T.W.R]

referees can also be people like:

*the tutor of a course you may have done
*College guidance councilor
*volunteer work "boss"
*church minister
*youth group leader

etc etc. Someone who can "vouch" for you, as a person.

Personal or character references have little or no use in the employment situation.

That is why a lot of business' do a certificate of employment rather than a formal reference, it allows the prospective employer when reference checking to verify the information provided as a valid predictor of the candidate.

Proper structured references are rare but hold valid information that can be verified.

But all have to adhere to Privacy rights, thats why the person who signed a reference or has been listed as a referee is the only person that can be spoken to formally about prospective employees by the recruiting officer.

[Mike748]

AJ, some good advice has been given here.
I would add/support that written references (at least in my line of work) are not given or held in high regard, contact details for your last few places of work are expected along with permission to contact the referees for confirmation of details.

See if you can meet the managers in person and don't be afraid to be politely persistent by returning at a more appropriate time.

Also try the local councils for a job as they also do dog control, and often run a kennel type arrangement.
Good Luck.

[Curious_AJ]

Personal or character references have little or no use in the employment situation.

That is why a lot of business' do a certificate of employment rather than a formal reference, it allows the prospective employer when reference checking to verify the information provided as a valid predictor of the candidate.

Proper structured references are rare but hold valid information that can be verified.

But all have to adhere to Privacy rights, thats why the person who signed a reference or has been listed as a referee is the only person that can be spoken to formally about prospective employees by the recruiting officer.

AJ, some good advice has been given here.
I would add/support that written references (at least in my line of work) are not given or held in high regard, contact details for your last few places of work are expected along with permission to contact the referees for confirmation of details.

See if you can meet the managers in person and don't be afraid to be politely persistent by returning at a more appropriate time.

Also try the local councils for a job as they also do dog control, and often run a kennel type arrangement.
Good Luck.

aah... thanks guys.. I didnt really know all that ... but it's good to be in the know. cheers.

i usually meet the managers in person coz they're usually the vet or one of the nurses anyway lol.. and there's maybe like 4 people working in one clinic at one time usually.. so there's a good chance i'd get the manager lol. (as for grooming and catteries etc i will try to talk to them)

if i said that right?? lol..

but yeah, i will try to talk with them in person.

[DEATH_INC.]

Mmmmm, from my experience of looking through CV's from last time we were looking for someone, You need to try to find a way to stand out from the masses, all cv's look the same after a few.....don't copy the 'personal statement' from the book (you know....I'm keen and willing to learn etc ) it gets real tiresome reading the same thing over and over again....
We looked for someone not over-qualified (phd's don't mean much in my line of work) someone keen and interested in a related passtime, Honesty is right up there, and punctuality is a trait sadly lacking in jaffaland. work references, not personal one's with contacts is really what we like to see.
As a side note, it's amazing how many people have those waste-of-time qualifications, Graphic design.....geeze every other applicant had one.....

[MyGSXF:Me]

Personal or character references have little or no use in the employment situation

Aj is only 19 & as she has already stated, below.. she hasn't worked much yet.. so she needs to find other people in some "seniority type of position", who have experienced "her", to be able to "vouch" for her, in place of a "boss". As she gets more work experience under her belt, she can start collecting references/referees. In order to get a job, you need references.. but in order to get references.. you need to get a job! But the ball has to start rolling "somewhere"!

& you left out the things I was pointing to, that one of these type people would be able to say about her.. which are the things that a boss is looking for, in someone of her age!!

"If one/two of the above can say things like: you are honest.. a hard worker.. keen to learn.. can work well in a team.. can work well by yourself.. on time.. reliable.. well presented.. etc etc"

as for referees, well I havn't worked much so I don't have many of those and some of the places I have worked at don't do the whole reference thing as a policy

[T.W.R]

Aj is only 19 & as she has already stated, below.. she hasn't worked much yet.. so she needs to find other people in some "seniority type of position", who have experienced "her", to be able to "vouch" for her, in place of a "boss". As she gets more work experience under her belt, she can start collecting references/referees. In order to get a job, you need references.. but in order to get references.. you need to get a job! But the ball has to start rolling "somewhere"!

& you left out the things I was pointing to, that one of these type people would be able to say about her.. which are the things that a boss is looking for, in someone of her age!!

"If one/two of the above can say things like: you are honest.. a hard worker.. keen to learn.. can work well in a team.. can work well by yourself.. on time.. reliable.. well presented.. etc etc"

Have you actually experienced the employment process and job fit selection of prospective employees?

And as a factual piece of information;
Occupational psychologists tend to doubt the usefulness of references in predicting future performance. The Schmidt and Hunter meta analysis gives a coefficient of 0.26 for references -ahead of job experience, but behind unstructured interviews.
The biggest thing in gaining employment is selling yourself properly & efficiently in interviews.
Most recruiters for prospective employees only briefly scan CVs and make their decisions based on 'Seven point plan' and 'Five fold frame work' selection processes

[Conquiztador]

Have you actually experienced the employment process and job fit selection of prospective employees?

And as a factual piece of information;
Occupational psychologists tend to doubt the usefulness of references in predicting future performance. The Schmidt and Hunter meta analysis gives a coefficient of 0.26 for references -ahead of job experience, but behind unstructured interviews.
The biggest thing in gaining employment is selling yourself properly & efficiently in interviews.
Most recruiters for prospective employees only briefly scan CVs and make their decisions based on 'Seven point plan' and 'Five fold frame work' selection processes

We are talking about a young girl here who wants to work with animals. The places she will approach will not have any of what you state. If they need someone they will get someone who is interested in animals, has experience with animals and is planning to spend her life working with animals.

You need to show that animals are what you want to work with. Take a volunary position to starters. Knock on doors and volunteer your time. Show that the $$'s are not what drives you. Get involved in an organisation that cares for animals. Becom a member. Spend time helping them. To get funds, to set up shelters, to adopt out animals. Anything. You will soon have all the references you need and also a network that will provide you with a job.

Good Luck!

[T.W.R]

We are talking about a young girl here who wants to work with animals. The places she will approach will not have any of what you state. If they need someone they will get someone who is interested in animals, has experience with animals and is planning to spend her life working with animals.

What I stated in that post was actually directed at the person I quoted, not AJ

Though in saying that, as part of what is stated in the post "The biggest thing in gaining employment is selling yourself properly and efficiently in interviews"
I wish AJ the best of fortune in gaining a position with what she wants to do

[MyGSXF:Me]

We are talking about a young girl here who wants to work with animals. The places she will approach will not have any of what you state. If they need someone they will get someone who is interested in animals, has experience with animals and is planning to spend her life working with animals

My thoughts EXACTLY!!!!!! In a 19 year old they will be looking for someone who is reliable, honest, keen to learn & interested in animals.. just what AJ IS!!! (I didn't bother replying to TWR's post.. coz it wasn't worth it!!! )

[Conquiztador]

What I stated in that post was actually directed at the person I quoted, not AJ

OK, my bad. But you confused me with your babble. And I employ staff weekly. So imagine what a 19yo girl would have made outta it as it went "swishhhh" over her head.

The only thing a CV is for is to get you to an interview. Then you are on your own! So make sure it grabs the attention.

[sugilite:Me]

Just jumping ahead to the interview process itself. Don't forget the interview is as much yours as it is theirs. I always go along with a list of questions I have for them. As they want to find a quality person as much as you want to find a quality job, the interview process works both ways. Approaching it in this way, you are showing confidence, planning and execution. And they definitly notice when you come prepared.

[Jorja]

yeah, that's right.

I'm entering the fulltime work force this year!

anyone know of any dog groomers, cattery/kennel facilities preferrably around the shore or around the mt eden and pt chev areas that I can send my cv into??

Alternatively, does anyone work in an animal related business that is around auckland (reasonably close to CBD or the north shore) that could possibly spare a position?

all you help will be muchly appreciated

cheers

Go see Krista at Barkley Mannor Great North Rd Grey Lynn. Tell her Kylie from Ultra Pet Food suggested you go see her. She is a little hard to get hold of on the phone but keep trying or stop in one day.

http://www.barkleymanor.co.nz/

[crashe]

Go see Krista at Barkley Mannor Great North Rd Grey Lynn. Tell her Kylie from Ultra Pet Food suggested you go see her. She is a little hard to get hold of on the phone but keep trying or stop in one day.

http://www.barkleymanor.co.nz/

A dog care centre........ good grief what next....lol
Hate to think what they would charge per day....

Is it run like a child day care centre????? (They are about $55 per day)

EDIT: just had a wee look at the link.......


They have vacancies
http://www.barkleymanor.co.nz/why-ba...html#vacancies

[Jorja]

Actually they are very busy and popular as they can help with trainning and socialisation while owners are at work.

Not sure of the amount but it is a great set up. Plus they have a shop, groomers, nutritionist and behaviouist.

The latest is a W.O.O.F.
Warrant of onging Fitness.
Costs about $80 for one hour with nutritionist and behaviouist. They help with training and diet problems as well as health issues.

You would be amazed at how much people spend on their dogs. I have several customers you send their dogs there and they are raving about it.