Forum whore
You're actually suggesting that a majority of mothers in NZ shouldn't have had kids. Thanks to a number of demographic and economic issues, most two parent families can't get by without both parents working, and most single parent families are headed by a women who has to work if she doesn't want to make having babies a job.Originally Posted by Bikern1mpho
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
The Loose Goose
My parents were both sulkers - instead of yelling and getting things over and done with, they would make snide remarks and then not speak to each other for days and in some cases, weeks! I grew up hating that bullshit so I tend to tell it like it is and then get on with my life. I have red hair but it's not natural so I get really pissed off when people say I am feisty. I'm not, I just don't take any crap from anyone!
I think there is a fine line between not taking any crap and being obnoxious. I have worked with people who say they like to get things out in the open but that often takes the form of belittling other people and being a bully.
My mother was a home-body - she had a few part-time jobs while I was growing up but most of the time she was home at lunchtime and after school. She baked, sewed, knitted, etc and never played any sport or had any outside interests. I may have taken after her in some respects (damn good cook and I can knit anything) but I have always been quite adventurous and interested in things that are not female dominated, like karate, land yachting, car rallying, tattoos, etc. I grew up loving bikes because my brother had one but I wasn't allowed one when I was at high school. Same with cats - my mother didn't really like them so I didn't get one until I was in my twenties.
I hope I grew up with my own personality and not someone else's, and if other people don't like it, that's their problem, not mine!
Yes, I am pedantic about spelling and grammar so get used to it!
Forum whore
Owww - you are skimming it close to the bone there honey!
I would reflect the comment Jrandom made just before about how non-breeders mouthing off really gets up the noses of those of us who do decide to go the family route. AND on top of that to suggest in a rather self righteous manner that it is a smart choice to not have kids cos you don't want to hand them over to someone else to raise - what a crock!!!! Watch what you say - there are alot of working mums and dads out there and we aren't all raising emotionally neglected latch key kids! NOR do we sign over RAISING rights to the teachers who look after our babies 'during business hours'!
I work fulltime and my boy does go to daycare but guess what? He seems alot happier in daycare with all the other kiddies around, excellent activities, lovely teachers, good resources and is learning off his peers much faster than he was when he was stuck at home with boring old mum. Plus I am a happier mummy that has more too give - energy is weird like that!
Do I wish everyday that I could AFFORD to stay home with my boy YES but is there value in him watching me go off to work, earn a living and so doing help provide the lifestyle we have, ride a bike (sensibly) for fun WHILE still allowing him some space to develop in this world without mum & dad always there watching his every move (still keep a good close eye on things however) - HELL YES there is value in that. Nothing against the stay at home mums and dads - think you all deserve a medal actually and I don't want to suggest there isn't value in that - there bloody is! But there is merit in both lifestyle choices but to suggest you can't do a child right by either approach is crap and to say that has ruled your choice about whether you have them or not is SAD! Kids are a huge gift and while there are sacrifices/compromises to be made deciding to not have kids cos you the prospect of giving up your bikes or lifestyle is too much to stomach you just don't get it....may you never have kids if that really is where you are coming from.
Rant over - deep breaths being taken now...
Rest In Peace
Lily, I am sure you are not trying to be offending, but you honnestly have to try and be a bit more careful about how you formulate your opinions. And no, I don't think that being dyslexic stops you from being capable to proof read your posts and try to imagine how they will be received by the people whom it concerns.
Having an opinion is fine, and being honnest is even finer a quality...but this smacks of the "foot in mouth" disease.
Celestine Prophet
How dare you say such a horrible thing about two beautiful and lovely children. Considering that their mother perceives then to be a burden which got in the way of her career and shagging her boss I think they are remarkable. I miss them a great deal, they brough joy into my life if only for a short while and I would never want anything bad to happen to them!!
The world needs more women just like you.
Yeah, I bet those kids are looking for a shotgun right now, so that they can give it a blowjob and reverse her terrible mistake.
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year,
Running over the same old ground.
What have you found? The same old fears.
Wish you were here. QWQ
Celestine Prophet
I would never have a go at someone for choosing a different way in life to me. I personally would chose to be a stay at home mum if I had children but that is my choice and it does not suit everyone. I just do not like the fact that two beautiful children were dumped by a mother who should have thought more about the consequences of her actions before having what she terms 'burdens'. Children are never a burden and should be a joy. If she wanted to have a career and the life style she has adopted after walking out on her kids then she shouldn't have had them in the first place. Kids are for life, they are not accessories!!
If people wish to have children that is their choice but I get sick and tired of people having a go about women such as myself who decide to opt out of having a family as if it something to be ashamed of. I would rather not have kids than have them for (1) the wrong reason, (2) because everyone else is doing it and (3) because I feel pressured into it.
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year,
Running over the same old ground.
What have you found? The same old fears.
Wish you were here. QWQ
Forum whore
I think Mr Jrandom's "feisty" analysis was on the money.
So it's OK for you to over-generalise, but if the barometer dares to shift slightly in your direction we get an over-paranoid rant back?
Where have I seen this before?
Hmmmm.
It's an old tale, I know how it will work out, but good luck with it.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Celestine Prophet
I am not ranting or over generalising I am just saying that I think that my exes ex-wife should have thought about how having children would affect her life and career before having them. What is so out there about such a statement. I think that if she had thought more wisely she would have have had a 5 y/o son seeing a child psychologist!!
Why is thining about the welfare and well-being of children classes as being a rant!! I would have thought that caring so much about another woman's children and raising them is something to be encouraged not bicthed at for!!
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year,
Running over the same old ground.
What have you found? The same old fears.
Wish you were here. QWQ
Forum whore
Ok already been here and will again - sorry....But what irks me here is that it seems you suggest a view that parents who don't have things set up to your perfect idea must be Stupid Breeders. Probably you ascribe to the theory that only bored and lonely people have kids too....hope for your sake that isn't the case.
Again spoken like a true 'sensible non-breeder'....I don't believe you are ever fully prepared and sometimes things don't fit into that perfect ideal we all have...sadly but that's life! And do you know the circumstances of said inception?
Agree that thinking about it is important and good on you for caring however that isn't the track you've been taking sweety. You seem to be sure you couldn't and wouldn't do it so are you really standing on strong legs to be throwing your own judgements around?AND what are we all here for anyway?
Blowin up bikes since ages ago
Umm, yes, yes you are. In fact you do it quite a bit. Dunno why but if it's attention that you're after then you may as well stick to flashing ya bits..... Sorry but you're getting to be quite annoying, you dont really know anyone and you say you would like to so I suggest you actually *try*.
"Some people are like clouds, once they fuck off, it's a great day!"
Celestine Prophet
I am not saying that breeders are stupid, I love my parents (dad R.I.P.) and thank them for being so good at bringin me up!! I am saying that the exes ex-wife is a dumb selfish bitch and as I know her I know that this is an accurate statement!
What is wrong about saying that people should maybe think more about the impact that children will have upon thier lives before having them? I am not saying there is an ideal set-up for having children I just hated seeing a 3 and 5 year old so damaged by the selfish actions of thier mother.
I do not think that lonely and sad people are the only ones that have kids and have never said anything like that!! I know some truley amazing parents and I also know some who should never have been allowed to have them!!
Don't get your last comment. I raised my exes kids for two years even though I never want to have my own. I loved them and always put them first even though they were not mine and never begrudged doing it. There are few things in life that can compare to a small adorable little boy telling you he loves you or seeing the look of pride on a little girl's face after you have been teaching her to ride her bike and she does it for the first time without stabilisers.
I am just aware that so many people who end up in prison or in psych units are there in part as a result of bad parenting or parental neglect and I would like to see this happen less.
Ok already been here and will again - sorry....But what irks me here is that it seems you suggest a view that oreparents who don't have things set up to your perfect idea must be Stupid Breeders. Probably you ascribe to the theory that only bored and lonely people have kids too....hope for your sake that isn't the case.
Again spoken like a true 'sensible non-breeder'....I don't believe you are ever fully prepared and sometimes things don't fit into that perfect ideal we all have...sadly but that's life! And do you know the circumstances of said inception?
Agree that thinking about it is important and good on you for caring however that isn't the track you've been taking sweety. You seem to be sure you couldn't and wouldn't do it so are you really standing on strong legs to be throwing your own judgements around?
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year,
Running over the same old ground.
What have you found? The same old fears.
Wish you were here. QWQ
Blowin up bikes since ages ago
Hey Nimpho chick, giving me red for a post in a thread regarding fiestiness and being able to stand up for yourself as a "chick" but not you being able to respond in public is a bit against what you are trying to say here isnt it? By the way it is my opinion that you are opinionated, fiesty is one thing but nasty is another.... I can be both and more.
"Some people are like clouds, once they fuck off, it's a great day!"
Celestine Prophet
My cousin died in child birth and her husband raised thier son with the help and support of my family. I would never disrespect that he had to work and how he raised his son, he is a credit to him!!
I do not have an issue with single parents or couple's working at all, it is a matter of preference. To each his own!!
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year,
Running over the same old ground.
What have you found? The same old fears.
Wish you were here. QWQ
Forum whore
Please don't catch me on one of my 'bad mother days' and then tell everyone on here about it....I can come across as a dumb, selfish bitch too!
Apart from the specifics of said 3 & 5 year old again - do you know the details of said inception...can you really be in a possition to suggest she didn't think about it? Do YOU know what it is like to have a child forever, to have carried it to have given birth to have that TRUE sense of forever as a parent. Make that two children....how helpful was daddy (where was daddy?) Why does only mummy wear this judgement....how perfect was this bloke...why is that only mummies cause their kids to end up in the looney bin?! Youa re right it is heartbreaking to know that kids are missing out!
Again, please don't catch me on a 'bad mother day'.
Kids rockand they are trying at times
OF course it's cos of bad parenting...we couldn't possible ever grow enough self awareness, discipline, humilty and capacity to learn so as to rise above our own upbringings. AND there are other things that f*ck people up too such as drugs and society and the media and people unrelated to you ooo and lets not forget Heavy Metal music.
I don't disagree with your sentiments in this post (per se) but you were having a rant but worst of all...AGAIN please don't meet me on a 'bad mother day' and put it up here for everyone to discuss!
Sorry and one other thing...it's as if you seem to assume that you can only do it right one way...by staying at home. Your judgement of the woman in question is based on your own prejudices and as you clearly are not keen to have kids yourself right now as it would well let's face it you have intimated screw up yer life.....that doesn't give you right to publicly diss someone else - even if she was yer witchy ex sista in law...one day the worm turns....
Blowin up bikes since ages ago
It appears that you have been through EVERYTHING under the sun. Im surprised that you get outta bed in the morning..... You sure that you're taking your meds? Are you doing physch so that you can prescribe your own?
"Some people are like clouds, once they fuck off, it's a great day!"
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