Australian citizen Benjamin Potts been taken hostage

[Delphinus]

So you say in B that fish in the sea are a natural resource, yet people get up in arms when we use it?

Yes, as imdying says, when we abuse it.
There is nothing wrong with doing ANYthing in a sustainable way and in moderation. Sheep and beef faming for example is much more sustainable, we're putting in and taking out about the same. As for fishing its all just take take take.
The way we're going about it now we're loosing alot... The fishing from the rocks pastime as a kid has been lost.

surely Occam's Razor can only apply to option A - invisible nets, where? i cant see them, now that would definitely be a phenomenon though.

Ok hard to see then. I've been net fishing before, wading through the water with a friend on the other end towing a net, and its not easy to see.... We only caught enough to feed ourselves, and threw anything not big enough back.

Ok this should stop now, its great to see so many supporters for the whales and equally to see so many supporters of the whaling. My opinion is that its allright and yours is that it isnt. Good on both of us.

Its interesting to see what other people think, I enjoy a healthy and informed debate. Can learn alot.

If the fish havn't gotten smarter in the last 20 years..... how do they know to not leave the reserve?

Good point. But I feel there is a difference between a safe environment with ample supplies of food, other wildlife/shellfish/massive crayfish/etc as far as the eye can see....
Or the empty barren coastline beside it...
I know where i'd be

[fredie]

bombs away . acid bombs are used now . have not killed a whale for 9 days cause of acid stink bombs . pirate prisoners have been released http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegrap...001028,00.html

[Steam]

Just to clarify, the "Acid Bombs" are a weak acid, so weak that you can take a swim in it and you'll be fine, except for the uncontrollable vomiting from the smell.

[fredie]

stop japan killing whales . start selling more lamb too them $$$$$$$$$$

[Street Gerbil]

bombs away . acid bombs are used now

Well, it is no longer a felony.
Technically, an armed attack on a naval vessel constitutes an act of war.
I do hope japanese sailors are armed.

[Steam]

Technically, an armed attack on a naval vessel constitutes an act of war.
I do hope japanese sailors are armed.

Why, so they can shoot the anti-whaling "terrorists"?
That'd go a long way towards ending their whaling, the PR ramifications would be terrible for the Japanese.
Also, there are no navy ships involved either side. They are company ships.

Remember the protesters haven't hurt anyone. Sure they've rammed in the past (actually it was the Japs to failed to give way) and they lob bottles of stinky liquid, but that's hardly an act of war.
Jumping on the Jap boat is trespass, but not an act of war either.

(they sank whaling ships in Norway this is true (nobody hurt) , but that's a separate campaign from this Southern Ocean one, there are different tactics and rules of engagement up in the Northern Hemisphere.)

[fredie]

Well, it is no longer a felony.
Technically, an armed attack on a naval vessel constitutes an act of war.
I do hope japanese sailors are armed.

useing harpoons is a act of war

[imdying]

Remember the protesters haven't hurt anyone.

Awesome, lets wait till they do.

(they sank whaling ships in Norway this is true (nobody hurt) , but that's a separate campaign from this Southern Ocean one, there are different tactics and rules of engagement up in the Northern Hemisphere.)

Sounds like war to me... I'd be shooting the tossers.

[Ixion]

Well, it is no longer a felony.
Technically, an armed attack on a naval vessel constitutes an act of war.
I do hope japanese sailors are armed.

Only if the attack is by a sovereign power. Which it is not.

[fredie]

give the whales torpedoes too blow up the japan killers

[imdying]

give the whales torpedoes too blow up the japan killers

Give the cows guns and the chickens choppers too?

[McJim]

What hostile action have they taken?

So if a vegetarian breaks into your house because you eat meat that's okay is it?

If the fucken pillocks think they're bulletproof and can lord it around the world selling their self righteous bullshit and boarding boats then fuckem.

Have any of you actually tried whale? Tastes nice man. Leave them Jappas alone.

[fredie]

whale might taste great . but too much $$$ for greedy grubs , plus there wont be anymore whales left soon .ALL GONE FOR EVER

[fredie]

the japs get up too $140,000aus$ for 1 tuna in the tokio fish markets. they prob get over 5million$ per whale . its all about greed . this year the whale war is on again .the japan ship was damaged and had too port . but australia and nz refused them so the japs had too limp all the way up too indonesia the acid bombs are just rotten butter. very stinkie an slipery if we were not there the japs would have up 3 killing harpoon armed ships.a f--king killing fieldthey would be killing over 10 whales each ship a day . but we have limited the japs too just one ship. and only up too 5 whales a day

[ital916]

guess the japanese just need to come up with a high tech fencing system that works in the ocean, then the whales will be just like cattle - then perhaps these greenies with their heads up the whales arses will realise that whale is another sustainable resource.

As for the pirates, how is it that all people seem to get told is that they have been taken hostage, just more media irresponsibility, call it how it is - they illegally boarded the ship (uninvited) and are now being dealt with in the legal manner, detained until legal advice is sought.

I think the key point people are missing is we are not making an attemp at keeping whales at a sustainable level. We cant call it a sustainable resource and then harvest it till the cows come home without actually making an effort to keep the population levels up.