Perfectly acceptable or a little rude?

[_Gina_]

I think it's perfectly okay for you to be offended Jimmy.

It is motorsport and people will "give it a go" given the opportunity to have the ear of a sponsor - which I find to be the game.

Having said that, it is like the girlfriend analogy given earlier in this thread - it's okay to acknowledge the attraction, it's not okay to try and run the boyfriend down so that you gain the girlfriend. You will be considered to be untrustworthy and generally a bit of a cunt.

Gina

[Riff Raff]

I actually think you should be flattered babe. Your efforts have increased the profile of your sponsors to the level where good riders are taking an interest in them. It shows that you are getting their name out there. It has also highlighted the relationship you have with them and strengthened the bond. I can only see positives from this situation.

[CHOPPA]

As long as its not my sponsors i say go for it haha

[Bren_chch]

hey, why u not at teretonga?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Here's a poll without predjudice.

Is it ok to approach a sponsor already heavily involved with a race team and hit them up to sponsor yourself? Including the insinuation that you'd perhaps gain better results for the sponsor than their current rider?

What'd ya reckon?

Give us some reasons either way too.

Ta

Fucking oath.

That is of course assuming that the sponsors are actually after results for their investment, Pussy. Some are in it for completely different reasons.

It's only later you told us your sponsors are happy just 'hanging'.

As someone who's slogged his guts out to race Garry, I realise that you probably view this the same way I do.

Suffice to say, it doesn't actually matter who the rider is. I'm just putting the question out there to see if I am right in feeling a little pissed off or I should pull my head in and just accept it.

The irony is, although this rider will almost certainly give the intended sponsor better results, the rider already supported is definitely a more public and vocal ambassador for the sponsor. Funny old world aint it.

Slogged your guts out? Is the bike yours? Did you/are you having to buy it/pay for it? I'm still paying for the race bikes I got 'help' with. NEVER was a race bike literally given to me. So yes...you need to pull your head in. Earn your keep.

HA ha, my sponsors aren't after a second rider, they're perfectly happy with where we are and where we're headed at the moment.

As people have pointed out, if ya don't ask, ya don't get. The rider in question is a little cheeky in my oppinion and I'm kinda flattered the guys that support me are now seen as players in the sport and therefore worthy of attention.

It's all good. Bring on Paeroa and he'll see where we're at

That's better.

All good mate, I'm asking for peoples oppinions and yours makes sense perfectly.

To put it into perspective I'll give you a bit of insight into our very unique little arrangement.

The owners of Easystart Rental Management and Wealth Buy Property are motorsport nutters. One has a brand new HSV GTS that he loves thrashing round the track the other has all sorts of high end performance cars and bikes. Neither of them knew a single thing about what's involved in preparing or running a Superbike, but they knew it interested them and they wanted to be a part of it at the ground level. Both Martin and Steve are having a ball being extremely hands on and sorting out the tuning and development of the team. They love being at the races hangin out with me and Sue, cleaning the bike, timing laps, changing tyre warmers, grabbing time sheets and coffees and just being a part of a developing team.

Now if they were to, for example, throw the money they've thus far invested (and it's a big figure) in let's say Craig Shirriffs ('cause he's the only top rider I know that wont take offence at his name being used), do you think they'd get the same freedom in the running of the team? I doubt it.

So that's where we differ from the top guys, they've made it, we're still learning how to.

Any top team would happily let your 'sponsors' polish their bikes and 'hang'.

At the end of the day Jimmy...instead of getting your nose out of joint, you should decide if your hearts in this racing thing or not. If not...let your sponsors cash help someone who's heart and dedication is there.

[cowboyz]

on the other side of the coin, what if you were an up and coming racer who pumped everything they could into the sport and found they could only afford to run midfield. But with confidence and believing in themselves that with more money, better equipment, more support they could do better. So they show up every race to see sponsered teams doing better and better and their bank accounts getting smaller and smaller. The frustration sets in and realisation that even at sub-national levels it requires alot of money to get near the front. So needing a sponser they try to approach anyone they think will take them on board. It is how the approach is done if I vote A or B so I not going to vote right now.

[roogazza]

on the other side of the coin, what if you were an up and coming racer who pumped everything they could into the sport and found they could only afford to run midfield. But with confidence and believing in themselves that with more money, better equipment, more support they could do better. So they show up every race to see sponsered teams doing better and better and their bank accounts getting smaller and smaller. The frustration sets in and realisation that even at sub-national levels it requires alot of money to get near the front. So needing a sponser they try to approach anyone they think will take them on board. It is how the approach is done if I vote A or B so I not going to vote right now.

Has anyone else mentioned that green shit is hard to read ??? My eyes are stuffed , but is it only me ?

Oh and Trash, someone asked why you weren't in the results down Sth, I haven't seen any reply ? or is that something private and personal ?
No worries if it is , just thought we might see you figuring down there ? Gaz.

[Joni]

Has anyone else mentioned that green shit is hard to read ??? My eyes are stuffed , but is it only me ?

Sorry trashie for taking it off topic....

I always used to think that about his green as well, until i saw it in the dark universe... it stands out amazingly... I am almost positive he works in the dark universe.

[Mental Trousers]

Has anyone else mentioned that green shit is hard to read ??? My eyes are stuffed , but is it only me ?

Been there, done that, he still seems to think that half the site using the Light Universe so not able to read posts is no big deal.

[cowboyz]

yep. in the dark here. But I dont go complaining about people who write in black or blue and I cant read their posts either. If you highlight it it will change colour so you can read it. As I said before, I hardly ever said anything interesting so you are not missin gout on much if you skip past my posts anyway.

[GSVR]

Would a Mod please move this to Pointless Drivel as its ruining a perfectly good thread

[flame]

Oh and Trash, someone asked why you weren't in the results down Sth, I haven't seen any reply ? or is that something private and personal ?
No worries if it is , just thought we might see you figuring down there ? Gaz.

Just because someone has a sponsored machine, it does'nt always mean ALL the costs are covered for the rider. Taking a month off work, paying to get to the Nats, tyres, travel, entry fees and the whole lot of extra costs are often out of most hard working racers budget's. Im sure we'll see WT back in the saddle at the more affordable North Island rounds.

Drew also would have dearly loved to compete at the Nats, As would have I, but the time required off work alone is not always an option.

[sinned]

Has anyone else mentioned that green shit is hard to read ??? My eyes are stuffed , but is it only me ?

Off topic - I have often thought about posting on the green text, having an interest is websites and the like.

Anything that makes it hard for people to read your stuff is a bad idea.

I can't read it at all in light universe, I have difficulty with colours as do 5% of males. I have to be highly motivated to highlight the text to read it, most times I don't bother.

[roogazza]

Just because someone has a sponsored machine, it does'nt always mean ALL the costs are covered for the rider. Taking a month off work, paying to get to the Nats, tyres, travel, entry fees and the whole lot of extra costs are often out of most hard working racers budget's. Im sure we'll see WT back in the saddle at the more affordable North Island rounds.

Drew also would have dearly loved to compete at the Nats, As would have I, but the time required off work alone is not always an option.

Thanks , thought he might have been hurt or something ?

Must admit I've always preferred money over titles. G.

[Drew]

Must admit I've always preferred money over titles. G.

Hell with the cash, I wanna be the best! Just have to wait and see if we can get down there next year I guess.