Why is motobike gear all black?

[Grub]

Science funded by a company with a financial stake in proving a point isn't science..

Discrediting Research 101:
- Attack the methodology
- Attack the integrity
- Attack the sample selection
... if all else fails ...
- Attack the researcher

[sAsLEX]

Well yeah ... this is KB. We know stuff ... we've been riding for a thousand years ... never had an accident ... I've already made up my mind ... etc etc

When really the reason is ..
" ... not on your life, only queers and mommy's boys wear those things .... I'm a biker FFS, I wear black! ..."

Don't worry, these same arguments were all trotted out over wearing
- seatbelts
- crash helmets
- pushbike helmets

Ya can't let science get in the way of a good closed mind

Resaearch has proven higher speeds on open roads reduce crashes and injuries.............. you think that will ever be publicised here?

[Hitcher]

... and to be perfectly balanced a "Whorey Chestnutess" one as well

I am perfectly balanced: I have chips on both shoulders.

[Grub]

I struggle with your attitude, I really do.

And me yours ... but only because like the OP says, why not take every opportunity, no matter how small and insignificant, to raise your visibility.

It doesn't matter how much you hate the idea personally, or think it's all bunkum, if there's any chance at all at all then it can't be a Bad Idea.

It's already been conceded that to rely on being seen is just plain dumb ... and it will hurt you.

[Grub]

Resaearch has proven higher speeds on open roads reduce crashes and injuries.............. you think that will ever be publicised here?

You serious? Can I have a copy please I want to carry it in my wallet for the next time I get stopped.

[sAsLEX]

You serious? Can I have a copy please I want to carry it in my wallet for the next time I get stopped.

Dont think it will work.


But you can research and find any result you wish.


Lies , Damned lies and statistics.......... except the higher speed one is correct after they raised the interstate limits in some states in the states....

[98tls]

After 30 years of devoting my weekends to disproving the theory that ugly people become beautiful people after 13.5 woodstocks i have to be honest and say yes without doubt they do.Ive come to this conclusion without once wearing hi-vis riding gear.

[scracha]

Is it purely a cultural thing, that morocyclists refuse to wear stuff that isn't black?

Hmm...funny you mention that. I noticed that the majority of bikers here wear black. Certainly a far higher percentage than in Eurotrashville.

[98tls]

Just occured to me that maybe its just plain safer to waffle on the interweb about riding than it is to wear the right coloured gear.

[Horse]

Science funded by a company with a financial stake in proving a point isn't science.

Que? Which one of University of Auckland, University of Sydney, University of Otago have a "financial stake in proving a point"?

[Horse]

But you can research and find any result you wish.

Actually you can't. I mean, it's a common tactic to counter research you disagree with by saying "all research can be fudged" but if that was fundamentally true you wouldn't have those nice shiny motorbikes to ride. And you'd have died at age 4 from some kind of nasty disease.

The awful truth is that science actually works. Even the stuff you disagree with.

[Grub]

Resaearch has proven higher speeds on open roads reduce crashes and injuries..............

Actually I dispute their methodology, their integrity, their sample selection and the motives of the researcher(s)

[Bullitt]

For anyone that hasnt seen my Jacket its about half blue (not sky blue but alot lighter than navy) and half black. Yet see the attached pic where youd think it was totally black. Short of wearing entirely fluro Im not sure it would really make that much difference.

Ive seen research before that bike colour didnt have an impact on crash stats, and the bike is alot more dominant in the front view than I am. (And the front view is by far the most likely one for a car to not see you in then hit you)

While in an ideal world everyone would wear high vis vests its not gonna happen and I wont be doing it any time soon. Well done the companies that make bright coloured stuff though for those who want it though.

[twotyred]

If brightness made much of a difference then we'd never have cars turning in front of us when we've got our bright,modern headlights blazeing... but they still say ".. I didn't see you..." ?

[HungusMaximist]

To be honest, I wear coloured gear because I like colours and that it matches my bike.

If you want visibility, wear a fluro yellow HI-VIS vest, but that still doesn't mean you can lax off your riding.

Still expect every car out there is trying to run you over..