Highway Biker
Yes, 1.9L, and I have seen 'em - used to own a 1980 Sunbird with the blue starfire motor in it, and parents had an '81 Commodore with the same motor.Originally Posted by homer
What's your point ? What relevance is the colour ?
I also once had a Datsun Sunny and the motor in that was blue, too !
Didn't make any of 'em Fords....
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Ford pepl r guna b chasing me up after thisWho gives a fuck? Holden have won Bathurst more times than Ford.
Heres someone that I can relate tohaha, honestly all of you who think ford can best holden in any way shape or form need to get a checkup..... ur delusional (Dnt know if that spelt rite) Holden Rule ford any day
True: Ford Suck
False:Holden suck
No good deed goes unpunished...Leakproof seals-will...selfstarters-will not...Interchangeable parts-won't...In order to get a loan u need to prove u dont need it!!
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I had a VC Commodore with the 4-cyl Starfire motor. Reliable as anything and a good car!
The nissan engine in my VL cracked it's head. Yay...
The 4.1L falcon panelvan had very few problems. Would I go back to a ford? No.
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Worked for holden for 3 years as aprentice had a friend who worked for ford, comparing storys they where both as bad as each other, for the price of a new commie or falcon you could get the same luxury, performance, handling you name it from a jappa thats more reliable and probally half the price.
I owned a vl commie 3l rb30et motor came str8 out and in went the 308 wish i kept the Rb30 and turbod it would of been cheaper easier and made more power, though cant beat the sound of an 8
The instructions are simple...
You obviously buy into the 2 camps argument...Ford pepl r guna b chasing me up after this
Heres someone that I can relate to
True: Ford Suck
False:Holden suck
I just like to stir up the hornet's nest over this issue. YT's family are prime targets for this. Blind adherence to Ford no matter what. Fuck, it is pathetic.
Personally, I couldn't care less what maker's badge is on a vehicle...either it is a good design that does what I want and is reliable . Or it is not. Scumdog has the answer - some good in every make/model and some lemons.
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
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Fact: Who cares???
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Forum whore
Friend of mine summed it up best one day when he said to me, "Different bucket, same shit".Ford pepl r guna b chasing me up after this
Heres someone that I can relate to
True: Ford Suck
False:Holden suck
Forum whore
That was not Nissans fault - Holden did a dodgy fix squeezing the RB series motor in, which meant that filling the radiator did not mean there was enough coolant in the engine.The nissan engine in my VL cracked it's head. Yay...
Lots of RB series Holdens had engine problems as a result.
David must play fair with the other kids, even the idiots.
Forum whore
Damn straight, I had a 3.2 Legend a few years back, bloody quality car unlike Ford/Holden. Bring back the Godzilla's to BathurstYeah, but Dinosaurs that won't die.
When it comes to V6's, I've been blown away by our '96 Honda Legend, 3.5lt, V-tec, 215hp, (170kw), and 311nm of torque. Tricky auto trans and all the fruit including full leather interior with heated seats, accurate cruise control and ABS brakes. This car is now 12 years old and performs! It'll wind the speedo off the clock before you can say, "Oops! Sorry officer!"
Still a better car than the latest offerings from Ford or GM!
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Forum whore
The rot set in when they put those new fangled overhead valves in the engine. Gives them idea beyond their station.
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My old Falcon ute has a very powerful boat anchor then
Forum whore
Yeah. I have an old Jaguar. (Actually, as they are so unreliable I have several !)
The engine was first built during WW2.
It had double overhead cam with duplex cam chains. It had a true cross flow head, with a hemispherical combustion chamber and a central spark plug. It also made 100hp per litre in race trim.
The USA at the time...Made side valve V8s.
In about 1955 they got overhead valves, but GM have only just put overhead cam on the Gen IV V8.
The big V8s are great relaxed engines, but to call them a dinosaur is unkind. In 1955 they were are dinosaur. Now they are a really old dinosaur.
David must play fair with the other kids, even the idiots.
Forum whore
cause i think you ll find there a ford engine
thats all
as some ford cars in aussie are nissan and or mazda
i just thought those blue motors were actually ford engines
Forum whore
oh boy,I'm lost for words.....
Highway Biker
Nah, as I said earlier, the original 1.9L motor came from Opel (GM Germany, I think) and was in the Sunbird, but I don't think it made it into the Commodore - these were the 'Starfire' motor, developed by GM Australia, a few of which were put into the last of the Sunbirds as they were being phased out and the Commodore was coming in. Commodores started production around '78 or '79, and the last of the Sunbirds was 1980 (or possibly '81). The 4 cylinder Starfire motor was eventually replaced with a Nissan unit, and then phased out altogether. The Blue 6 cylinder 3300 was also replaced with a 3.0 Litre Nissan unit, which eventually gave way to the 3.8L V6 which I believe was based on the 3.8L Buick unit.
Never a Ford motor in a Holden, but a couple of others did get there....
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