FORD: Just for those who do give a shit

[RT527]

Yup, in the 'A' pillar (the one wot holds the ends of the window-screen apart) - or so the label says (and why else have a pillar that thick??)

Air-bags also scattered throughout the car.

Cheers scumdog.

[Boob Johnson]

Agree with the honda cars.

BUT Fuck Off with godzilla's at bathurst.P/T.

Bathurst has to be a v8 only and ford/holden

Angry??? Why angry? Ashamed at the mediocrity that Nissan exposed?

ps: You might wanna go check the rules Tony

Bathurst rules (at least then) were to put a car with no more than 600BHP on the track. Nissan did that & made a complete & UTTER mockery of "Folden" (once they got the glitches ironed out). They put so much into it that Nissan actually lost money on the GTR. A true technological marvel in its day (1989 onward), based (loosely) on the 959 Porsche. Ford at the time were the major sponsor of the two other (shit) brands & threaten to pull the $$$ out so they added weights to the GTR's in an effort to even the race up a bit lol. Im guessing you know what happened next aye Tony? Yup yup yup, they won again. I believe three times from memory (will have to google that one) then they banned them altogether.......ba ha ha ha. Sorry assed sore loosers if ever I saw one.

I spent close to 3 years living in oz & had many an occa looking at me with a confused look when I answered neither Ford or Holden did I support as they are BOTH piles of horse shit. Give me a euro built car any day of the week, just no comparison. "Folden" have the NZ & Oz market "dumbed down" to except the piles of steaming dog turds they call cars.


End rant

[homer]

its all interesting reading
but the whole point of the thread was just to see if people who have or want to have a ford falcon or fairmont or any other model that would be changed to having a V6 ,would actually be happy with it

Or rather the

For me the straight engine

[ynot slow]

Straight 6 way to go,where else can ya get a reliable stockcar motor,either ford or holden,back in good ol days,mind you the engines they run today in stockcars with exception of holden v6, are still the ford6 truck ones if you can get one,or au model,still in dark ages,even superstocks still stick with 240.8-248 cu max.Then spend mega $$$to get the quad cam to rev,or the holden,ford v8 antique motors to get 400hp.

The only thing good about the multi branded aussie touring cars of years ago,when both holden and ford decided to drop the v8 doh!! was the twin turbos' or jag racing cars tended to go bang more often.

At least with the avesco interest the playing field is equal,once again this depends who you talk to,re control tyre,suspension,etc.The only difference nowadays is the motor,same gearbox etc.

Still give me the sound of the supercars coming up mountain straight to the top of the mountain,the first time you hear it it is amazing,better than a porsche or turbo scream.

[homer]

yeah nothing wrong with a huge V8

[blue eyed savage]

Straight 6 know one makes them any more.
skyline was the last good straight 6 (rb26dett) nissan dont do the straight 6 any more and the V6 has been around all my life so what r u on about?

[homer]

Straight 6 know one makes them any more.
skyline was the last good straight 6 (rb26dett) nissan dont do the straight 6 any more and the V6 has been around all my life so what r u on about?

how do you figure that when the first ford straight 6 with DOHC VCT went in a 2000 model ford falcon xr6 and its now in the latest BA2 XR 6

so what do u mean they dont make them ,If they dont they still fit them and still will till 2010

[Mully]

At least with the avesco interest the playing field is equal,once again this depends who you talk to,re control tyre,suspension,etc.The only difference nowadays is the motor,same gearbox etc.

Not much difference in motors either, Cast Iron 5l Pushrod V8 limited to 7500rpm. You cannot buy a 5l V8 in either car any longer. So, they are effectively, the same car with a different shell. Holden were not allowed to run the Monaro shell as Ford figured out it would make a much better race car and vetoed it.

Straight 6 know one makes them any more.
skyline was the last good straight 6 (rb26dett) nissan dont do the straight 6 any more and the V6 has been around all my life so what r u on about?

BMW make a couple. Pretty good at it apparently.

My thoughts would be that Ford have very little (Global) use for a straight 6 motor anymore, and want to be able to slot in a global motor. Same reason Holden developed the Alloytech motor in different capacities, so GM can spread the development cost over more units globally.

[MaxB]

I like straight sixes. There have been some great I6s over the years. The Triumph TR6, GT6, the Falcon in its day, Slant 6, Hemi, BMW M-power, Jaguar, Skylines, Rolls-Royce etc etc.

I lost a lot of respect for Mercedes when they switched to the V6 after a century of making inline 6s. They pride themselves on their engineering excellence and IMHO a Merc V6 is a cop out to the bureaucrat. BMW still make an excellent range of motors.

[homer]

I like straight sixes. There have been some great I6s over the years. The Triumph TR6, GT6, the Falcon in its day, Slant 6, Hemi, BMW M-power, Jaguar, Skylines, Rolls-Royce etc etc.

I lost a lot of respect for Mercedes when they switched to the V6 after a century of making inline 6s. They pride themselves on their engineering excellence and IMHO a Merc V6 is a cop out to the bureaucrat. BMW still make an excellent range of motors.

I agree with you totally and wouldnt go away from a inline engine .....unless i can afford to run a V8

[ynot slow]

Straight six,wake up,saw at least 40 at the NZ stockcar champs running either the ford 6 truck engine circa 1970 from ford small trucks,to the au models,last time I checked the XR6 both std and turbo had 6 cylinders inline not a 'v',and pretty sure not alone with that model only,bmw,toyota chaser as well.

[Edbear]

One of the reasons for the increasing popularity of the V6 is to do with crash testing. The shorter length of the V6 allows more flexibility in designing crumple zones at the front of the vehicle.

Another plus over an inline six is the crank flex and twist of the longer shaft at high rpm while the shorter shaft of a V motor is stiffer and stronger.

However it's not all in favour of a V engine either, as they have balancing issues leading to manufacturers experimenting with offset bearing races as some motorcycle manufacturers have.

F1 found the ideal compromise was the V10, but due to the excesive HP they have been able to develop, they are now restricted to 2.5lt V8's and some have been struggling a bit with the unique balancing issues of these motors.

The internal combustion engine is a very inefficient exercise in compromises and until the manufacturers can make more efficient designs economic to produce, they will soldier on with trying to minimise the compromises as best they can.