FFS! This is just ridiculous! MUST READ - OPINIONS PLEASE

[Mom]

I am so glad to be through the childrearing years, If this law was in place when my kids were growing up I would be behind bars I am sure. A friend with 2 young boys (8 & 6) who uses discipline like normal parents had an experience that floored me. His son came home from school and said, you are not alowed to smack me anymore, my teacher said if you do the Police will come and take you away.

Mike said, thats ok, I dont mind if they do. How would you feel though if Daddy was gone, no more kite flying, no more kayaking, Mummy will be sad and not want to play with you either and there will be no more money to spend.

The kids agreed that it would be terrible if Daddy was not around, so that ended that problem. He does not beat them either, from time to time they simply get a stern reminder of what is ok and what is not. FWIW these boys are busy, run around kids with perfect manners.

[n0regret5]

the whole story, when you hear it, makes the situation seem completely stupid. i want that mental-case woman who suggested the bill to be a kindergarten teacher for a week, lets see just how fuckin good she is at not smacking kinds..

[Livvy]

the whole story, when you hear it, makes the situation seem completely stupid. i want that mental-case woman who suggested the bill to be a kindergarten teacher for a week, lets see just how fuckin good she is at not smacking kinds..

"Oh no, Tyler, dear, please, please don't try and put your fork into the plug... Oh god what is Johnny doing? Tyler, I thought I told you to stay away from the plug socket, there's a good boy, oh why is Johnny in the kitchen? He's at the stove! Oh lord, stay here Tyler, I'll be back in a second... Oh Maddison, don't try and eat the lego! Now where did Johnny go... Maddison, take that out of your mouth, please, Maddy, please... Johnny? What was that crash? Maddy, you're blue! Oh shit, I smell burning!"

Yeah just on the fact she's against smacking I wouldn't let her near my children, or anyone else's. I occasionally help out at the day care centre where I was sent as a youngin' as my niece goes there, and you either got the knack or you don't.

What's the bet the lady that asked for this bill to be passed doesn't even have children?!

[n0regret5]

"Oh no, Tyler, dear, please, please don't try and put your fork into the plug... Oh god what is Johnny doing? Tyler, I thought I told you to stay away from the plug socket, there's a good boy, oh why is Johnny in the kitchen? He's at the stove! Oh lord, stay here Tyler, I'll be back in a second... Oh Maddison, don't try and eat the lego! Now where did Johnny go... Maddison, take that out of your mouth, please, Maddy, please... Johnny? What was that crash? Maddy, you're blue! Oh shit, I smell burning!"

Yeah just on the fact she's against smacking I wouldn't let her near my children, or anyone else's. I occasionally help out at the day care centre where I was sent as a youngin' as my niece goes there, and you either got the knack or you don't.

What's the bet the lady that asked for this bill to be passed doesn't even have children?!

yeh she doesn't. (but look at her..who'd wanna impregnate that? even the turkey baster didn't wanna touch her..)

i loved the story my mate told me..she was standing on the side of the road somewhere watching a mother tell her child not to run onto the road cos it was naughty. kid runs onto road and nearly gets nailed, mum tells the kid off. this was before the smacking laws came in.

if my kid misbehaves, its gonna get a smack. this law won't last long, kids today are total shits cos their parents believe telling their kids off is more effective than smacking. i'm not disagreeing that it's effective..it just has its places.

[Livvy]

yeh she doesn't. (but look at her..who'd wanna impregnate that? even the turkey baster didn't wanna touch her..)

i loved the story my mate told me..she was standing on the side of the road somewhere watching a mother tell her child not to run onto the road cos it was naughty. kid runs onto road and nearly gets nailed, mum tells the kid off. this was before the smacking laws came in.

if my kid misbehaves, its gonna get a smack. this law won't last long, kids today are total shits cos their parents believe telling their kids off is more effective than smacking. i'm not disagreeing that it's effective..it just has its places.

Same here. There's times when sending them to the naughty corner will work, but at times, you just gotta give them a smack on the arse. I'd care more about keeping little Johnny from third degree burns, Tyler from electrocution and Maddison from choking to death by giving any one of them a clip than I would the prison sentence.

[Rotor]

who beleives the news.
they put what sells not the truth

[n0regret5]

Same here. There's times when sending them to the naughty corner will work, but at times, you just gotta give them a smack on the arse. I'd care more about keeping little Johnny from third degree burns, Tyler from electrocution and Maddison from choking to death by giving any one of them a clip than I would the prison sentence.

excellent! now..who here would do a protest?

[Livvy]

excellent! now..who here would do a protest?

Meeee.

But you might have guessed that.

[n0regret5]

Meeee.

But you might have guessed that.

:-) great. i signed a petition last time i was in wellington too..this DOES need to be sorted.

[Livvy]

:-) great. i signed a petition last time i was in wellington too..this DOES need to be sorted.

I signed one at Parachute Music Festival this year.

I also believe they should at least bring back the "threat" of corporal punishment in schools in some ways. I'm definitely a nerd in the fact I enjoy going to school and hate my classes being interrupted by the idiots who ruin it. Wave a cane in their faces and they might shut up because threatening them with lines sure as hell don't work, and what do you do then? Threaten to expel them? Well that don't work because it's illegal to deny someone education if they're under a certain age so the little fuckers are back next week.

By the way, my grandfather was a high school teacher and my great-aunt a headmistress. Neither had any particular problem students because of the threat that was there, and yet neither ever had to go through with it.

[n0regret5]

yeh but in todays world everything is wrapped in bubble-wrap and sweetly flavoured to hide the taste of medicine..the PC's and softys are ruining the world for us. i still remember my saddest school day, when they pulled down the awesom fort (was essentially a large wooden wall with pegs on one side and poles on the other) and replaced it with a fort that was barely a metre from the ground, as it was deemed 'safer'..yeh, but kids who fell off learnt pretty fuckin quick not to be stupid on it, along with the kids who saw it happen..but no. and whats with this anti-bacterial soap bullshit? making your kids use it all the time will stop them from developing an immune system. but the thing that pisses me off the MOST is when i go to a sushi restaurant and ask for wasabi, and i get a blob of wasabi-flavoured avocado. there has only been two sushi places that i have ever been to (i go to alot) that don't do that unless you ask. if you can't handle it, DON'T EAT IT!

god i rant.:-)

smacking a naughty kid has nothing to do with abuse. its discipline.

oh my god. what if a karate sensei got arrested for kicking one of his young students?!

[Livvy]

I know what you mean, we had a wooden fortress at my school too, must have been verging on at least being about the height of a two storey building, but did we ever fall off? Fuck no.

And as for the antibacterial shit, now they're also making it sound like you can barely go outside without getting skin cancer... So parents won't let their kids in the sun and now our newest generation are getting rickets due to lack of vitamin C I think? Correct me if I'm wrong. But shit. Come on people... Let Max play on the "big kid's playground" and yeah he might break his arm falling off the monkey bars, but he'll be so proud of his cast. Let little Susy get sunburnt, she'll get a tan and hey presto, no more sunburn. So what, Josh touched the dog and didn't wash his hands before eating his sandwich, the germs are more likely to be slight enough to improve his immune system before it'd overcome it.

Karate Sensei probably thought the kid deserved to be kicked.

[ElCoyote]

[QUOTE=
Btw, when will New Zealand be a democracy and the people have a right of say that goes beyond a selection of short-sighted political parties? (Jiminy goes hiding )[/QUOTE]

Only when we rid the hallowed halls of Parliament of Lesbians, Communists and Femminazis. Short answer don't hold your breath, they are firmly entrenched.

[ElCoyote]

What's the bet the lady that asked for this bill to be passed doesn't even have children?!

1) That's no lady
2) Who would mate with it, it's FUGLY

[mstriumph]

over here they have to PAY people to have children ---- otherwise, coupla years, there'd be no-one for the pollies to leach off

...... with this sort of idiocy becoming rampant, it's probably mainly the poorly educated and already disadvantaged they can get to accept the bribe and breed

personally i think it might be a gift to the universe if the whole human race thing were permitted to become a human shuffle and eventually die out