Scooter rider wasted on Dom Rd

[Macstar]

I was surprised at my dark lack of smypathy last night when I stumbled across an accident between a scooter and a car. Not that one ever wants to see a biker injuried BUT: Scooter riders are not bullet proof and binning at 50kph without gear is still going to hurt!

She was a female scooter rider dressed in work clothes i.e. skirt, shirt, heels had been cut off and it looked like she had smacked into the car and gone for a skid down the road. Couldn't get a close look at her injuries but she was on a stretcher being thrown in the back of an ambo.

[Str8 Jacket]

You're not related to katman are you?

[Nagash]

I feel sorry for her.. that's gonna be a long painful time of recovery. Hope her injuries aren't that bad but odds are they were.

[Ragingrob]

Yeah I don't know why scooters are seen as the "safer" option ay, especially when the targets market is all about not having to wear anything but a helmet!

[HungusMaximist]

Thing is, it was gonna happen sooner or later.

The other question to ask, is whether she was HOT or NOT.

Scooters can do some funky shit bikers can't with their manoeuvrability, so they're still cool!

[Jiminy]

I'm all for wearing my gear on the bike, but would be much less frantic about it on a scooter. I'm sure it would be safer to wear a helmet as a pedestrian, too, but somehow, there is a line between safety and freedom. Where this line lies is a matter of opinion.

I feel sorry for her.

[Ragingrob]

I'm all for wearing my gear on the bike, but would be much less frantic about it on a scooter. I'm sure it would be safer to wear a helmet as a pedestrian, too, but somehow, there is a line between safety and freedom. Where this line lies is a matter of opinion.

I feel sorry for her.

What would the difference be between your decision for gear on a bike and not on a scooter when going for a ride around town?

[Jimmy B]

Yep Dominion road is iffy for sure, anyone who rides it especially down the bus lanes in rush hour is best served to keep their eyes open and focus on traffic turning across you into the side streets through the gaps, pulling out or nosing into the flow from your left and those who gap it unannounced into the bus lane to make the left hander, which maybe some distance away.

If you’re stopping for gas at the BP Eden Quarter heading into town, never indicate if there is a car at the intersection to your left, they will usually assume that you are making the turn.

Don’t be afraid to use your horn, like I had to this morning when the prick in front started rolling back down the hill onto me while we were waiting for the lights at the road with no name up to Newton gully.

It amazes me that the general scooter population dress for the office and happily hit that 70k zone flat out. I’ve seen more near misses on Dominion Road than any other in over 10 years of commuting on the Bike.

[Joni]

There is a young lady here in Chch who zoots past me every day in her little stilettos and business suit. I have watched her and thought about it....

Have you ever considered that they are just not aware, they wanted a quick, convenient, cheap and in a way “cool” way of getting to work and around town. They are not motorcyclists; they have not been exposed to riding gear, bikes or KB. All they know is that they have to wear a helmet by law.

I look at this little lady and honestly think that it has never even entered her mind that if she came off that scooter so will lots of skin at the very least.

I reckon when you buy a scooter the sales person/company should be letting them know/guiding them to safe riding practices as well... then they will never be caught not knowing. Then its a decision to not ride with the right gear.

So maybe your lack of compassion is really callous as she did not know any better?

Just a thought and my opinion... could be completely wrong.

[Str8 Jacket]

Don’t be afraid to use your horn

Yes, always have your horn on.

gigiddy, gigiddy!

[Jimmy B]

Have you ever considered that they are just not aware, they wanted a quick, convenient, cheap and in a way “cool” way of getting to work and around town. They are not motorcyclists; they have not been exposed to riding gear, bikes or KB. All they know is that they have to wear a helmet by law.

Just a thought and my opinion... could be completely wrong.

Nup completely spot on Joni, I followed and passed just such a rider a few months ago ( I see them daily) wearing a tee shirt, mini skirt and sandals, in the 70 zone that I mentioned in my earlier post. She pulled up behind me at the lights. I thought about not saying anything but couldnt stand it and gestured for her to pull along side. I said that is her call and maybe in 50kph zone but for the 70 then she should should be wearing at least shoes, gloves and jeans. Ive seen her since and she has at least "upped" her clothing.

[Str8 Jacket]

Nup completely spot on Joni, I followed and passed just such a rider a few months ago wearing a tee shirt, mini skirt and sandals, in the 70 Zone that I mentioned in my post. She pulled up behind me at the lights. I thought about not saying anything but couldnt stand it and gestured for her to pull along side. I said that is her call and maybe in 50kph zone but for the 70 then she should should be wearing at least shoes, gloves and jeans. Ive seen her since and she has at least "upped" her clothing.

Sweet, good onya! Like Joni says alot of people are ignorant. Unfortunately the only way most of them become aware of the dangers is when its too late!

[Jimmy B]

Yes, always have your horn on.

gigiddy, gigiddy!

Never ever underestimate the power of a good horn

[HungusMaximist]

Nup completely spot on Joni, I followed and passed just such a rider a few months ago ( I see them daily) wearing a tee shirt, mini skirt and sandals, in the 70 zone that I mentioned in my earlier post. She pulled up behind me at the lights. I thought about not saying anything but couldnt stand it and gestured for her to pull along side. I said that is her call and maybe in 50kph zone but for the 70 then she should should be wearing at least shoes, gloves and jeans. Ive seen her since and she has at least "upped" her clothing.

Also a great way to pick up hot scooter girls...

[Jiminy]

What would the difference be between your decision for gear on a bike and not on a scooter when going for a ride around town?

Speed and use. If I'm expected to ride for long stretches over 30-50kph, then I tend to put on more gear. And if I only go around town, I tend to put less gear on because my leathers get hot, heavy, and just annoying.

Around town, I wear more gear on a motorbike than a scoot or a push bike because I tend to protect my bike when bad things happen, so I end up falling with or under it, with more risks to smash my head, shoulders, elbows or wrists. With a push bike, I just jump away and take care of myself, the bike will sort itself out.

It's all a question of perceived risk and personal choices. If I face plant on a mountain bike at 80 kph, I know I won't look too good (if I survive), but I perceive the risk of it happening as low enough for me not to wear a full face motorbike helmet or leather jacket on my mountain bike.

Be aware of the potential consequences if you don't go ATGATT (or even if you do), that's my opinion.