650 pro twins...

[Maarty]

Sorry to wade in late boys, but i agree with Shaun and Glen, Robert too, if you saw the amount of notes and data we record over a weekends racing on our 125 it would astound you! It takes me the rest of the week to sort through it and then Ken and i discuss it prior to the next event. As a general rule we have gone faster at each sucessive event and scored our first win in dominant style at manfeild. It wasn,t because we had the fastest bike or spent the most money, it was because Ken did his homework (as every 16yo should!) The same applies to pro-twins, superbikes even buckets! It takes more than a shock or a pipe to win, but they will help if you have done your homework with them!

[quallman1234]

Sorry to wade in late boys, but i agree with Shaun and Glen, Robert too, if you saw the amount of notes and data we record over a weekends racing on our 125 it would astound you! It takes me the rest of the week to sort through it and then Ken and i discuss it prior to the next event. As a general rule we have gone faster at each sucessive event and scored our first win in dominant style at manfeild. It wasn,t because we had the fastest bike or spent the most money, it was because Ken did his homework (as every 16yo should!) The same applies to pro-twins, superbikes even buckets! It takes more than a shock or a pipe to win, but they will help if you have done your homework with them!

Totally agree with ya there .

[svr]

Poor kid - Notes... Homework all week.. jeez VB it was a lot more fun in old days!

[Maarty]

T'was cookie, but I see they are still pulling the same old pranks on the way to and around Queenstown as we used to! Right down to the eggs!
Seems somethings are still fun!
Anyway, gotta make the little bugga work for his supper and lately he has been eating well, I even get some of the leftovers too!
Great as well, if I get bored with him I can give him back, not like he is mine!!!!!

[t3mp0r4ry nzr]

Hey, get the gixxer front end off and keep racing in pro-twins Cookie, its gonna be fun racing with ya!

[Keystone19]

Great as well, if I get bored with him I can give him back, not like he is mine!!!!!

Oh you're soooo mean Marty - I'm gonna tell young Ken just what you've been saying about him on Friday...

And just in case you were wondering, I wouldn't have any idea who might have egged your van, none at all.

[Maarty]

Oh you're soooo mean Marty - I'm gonna tell young Ken just what you've been saying about him on Friday...

And just in case you were wondering, I wouldn't have any idea who might have egged your van, none at all.

Squealer!

I know who did it, I know who snitched and and I also know the boy had to clean it 5 times!

Ask Cookie, we were real men back in the old days, didn't even clean our vans! Tough eh!

Ask Dave Cole about his transit, probably racing folklore by now, or ask Cookie about Matt Calahans van or Brett Richmonds, ah, those very the days (bubbles forming above forehead and pan-flute background music playing)

[Shaun]

Squealer!

I know who did it, I know who snitched and and I also know the boy had to clean it 5 times!

Ask Cookie, we were real men back in the old days, didn't even clean our vans! Tough eh!

Ask Dave Cole about his transit, probably racing folklore by now, or ask Cookie about Matt Calahans van or Brett Richmonds, ah, those very the days (bubbles forming above forehead and pan-flute background music playing)

Luckily things have changed a bit MartY. I do recall a freight chain of 4 vans, all full of bikes and riders etc, and the last time I looked at my speedo, JUST BEFORE GETTING CRASHED INTO FROM BEHIND AGAIN I was doing 90mph


Stroudy was a bit upset with all the dents I left in his van that night, Haldane retired! Crafer left the country- and I'm still here

[Hellraiser]

Well according to Paul Stewart if the pro twins are mixed with the F3 at a race meet then I am unable to enter my SXV.

Can't wait till the class is big enough to have it's own races ......... then i'm in with a grin

[Robert Taylor]

Oh you're soooo mean Marty - I'm gonna tell young Ken just what you've been saying about him on Friday...

And just in case you were wondering, I wouldn't have any idea who might have egged your van, none at all.

And no idea who placed the Tainui number plate surround on my trailer by any chance? Btw it survived the trip all the way back from Invergiggles to NP. Removal has now been comprehensively effected but I have had trouble finding a surround that shows what tribe I am from!

[Robert Taylor]

Squealer!

I know who did it, I know who snitched and and I also know the boy had to clean it 5 times!

Ask Cookie, we were real men back in the old days, didn't even clean our vans! Tough eh!

Ask Dave Cole about his transit, probably racing folklore by now, or ask Cookie about Matt Calahans van or Brett Richmonds, ah, those very the days (bubbles forming above forehead and pan-flute background music playing)

In your case Maarty it was probably banjo music.............

[GSVR]

And no idea who placed the Tainui number plate surround on my trailer by any chance? Btw it survived the trip all the way back from Invergiggles to NP. Removal has now been comprehensively effected but I have had trouble finding a surround that shows what tribe I am from!

You are going to be putting Labour party stickers on it soon with the general election looming.

[Robert Taylor]

Horay for Sam! - ProTwins is perfect because its accessible no matter what your station in life - if you want to do it badly enough you can find a way, and if you're any good it will show - can we agree on that? Motorbike racing should be grass-roots accessible i.e. its not `priviliged rich-boy' car racing and thank god for that. Sorry Robert your interests in this discussion diverge sharply from the racers who dont want to have to choose between the latest set of forks or food / rent etc. That is not `third world mentality' that is reality.
Yes 125's are great but most people dont fit / want to ride more normal bikes and No ProTwins wont produce proffesional level skills but it does has the potential to grow the general sport of roadracing which will cast a wider net for young talent who can then move on up e.g. Sam Love.
Lets stop bitching and get out and support the class!

I stand to correct you because having been consulted re suspension when the rules were drawn up I personally recommended that only emulators and springs would be allowed in the forks ( for damper rod type forks, SV650 etc ) and that aftermarket cartridges would be strictly prohibited. This was mindful of keeping the costs at a reasonable level. I therefore stress that there is no divergence of view with the mainstream, and in fact the views expressed against any such mods at all are in fact coming from a vocal minority.

[Robert Taylor]

You are going to be putting Labour party stickers on it soon with the general election looming.

Id walk on broken glass barefoot first before EVER doing such a thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Robert Taylor]

I think the discussion on this class has been great so far really, and then we get input from SAM LOVE on it, ( ANd other riders) who is committed and has spent his own money Clap Clap Clap Powl

Fact, if you want to race just for fun? Stay in the club champs! Cheep cheep cheep

But if you want to give yourself the best shot, at turning your game of racing into a profession, like Dom Jones etc, step up to plate sorry crew, just as Sam and others have done!

Example of going racing seriously

I only ever started 21 races in NEW ZEALAND before I left, and went and moved to Japan, and tried to get a team to race for over there.
I had purchased a NEW Suzuki GSXR 750 which I raced in the first round of the WSB at manfeild, and trashed it DOH
I had spent a fortune on mod tuning the motor and suspension etc, as well as buying the bike, when I left to go to Japan, I owed $25-000 this was back in 1989

POINT BEING

AS Sam said, IF YOU WANT IT BAD ENOUGH, JUST GO AND GET IT.

SAM, your example is a huge part of why I have committed to support you on 600's mate

Commitment Commitment Proud to be a part of your future dude

Ditto re Sam and your comments about committment