1st Bin: Binned my new bike

[Kittyhawk]

Overconfident and understimated power of the bike, reading the road and knowing how to corner...

Your input created a negative output. It was not the bikes fault this happend.

When you realised you were over the line and hitting gravel you must have looked down in front, and thats where you would have gone...

If you had of looked through the corner, and focused on your exit point despite the surface changing, you would have had an oh fuck moment instead and carried on..

It's shit like this that gets to me...

Bad kitty day here

[Boob Johnson]

Yeh, the Shinkos are going, not that I blame them, they did feel incredibly grippy on the long twisties up north, but I would rather ensure the bike has its recommended tyre sizes.. Luckily a guy on trade me was selling the tyres off his ER-6, which are the same stock tyres used on the Versys, Just received them today, hardly used. Will be having them fitted tomorrow!

That's the story, don't know anything about the Shinko's had never heard of them until today but anything that cheap is usually for a good reason

[jrandom]

Such a bin is easily entered into.

After the lunchbreak at the last MotoTT trackday at Taupo, I headed back out on Betty, and I was a bit tired and distracted.

Got to turn 5, a sharp 110-ish degree right hander, turned in on my usual line and just drifted myself straight off the left-hand side of the track.

Bumped over the grass for a bit, thought 'wtf', stopped and checked, then headed back on and continued around.

If I'd done that on a road with no safe runoff, I'd have been upside-down in a ditch, saying naughty words to myself.

Eternal vigilance is the key! Glad you're in one piece, tsmj.

[FROSTY:Me]

some things you can cut corners on (no pun intended.........honest ) but tyres are not one of them Not suggesting it was 100% the tyres fault, obviously the rider has to take the majority of the blame in this case but hell, you wouldn't catch me with some cheap ass brand of tyre on my bike or any other for that matter.

Sorry dude but that for the AVERAGE newbee rider is the biggest crock of shit I've heard.
Not having a go at the poor bugger that crashed but I will 100% promise if a more experienced rider was on the bike they wouldn't have crashed.
NOTHING to do with the tyres.
I'd love to run a "blind taste test" for a few average newbees and seee if they are able to tell the difference between a shinko and a metmickerelli type r race compound

[jrandom]

Sorry dude but that for the AVERAGE newbee rider is the biggest crock of shit I've heard.

+1

Boob, stop being a boob.

[madandy]

I ran a Shinko on the back of my old RF400 a few years ago. Right through a BOP winter. It was as good as the Mez3 it replaced. Well it was just as good at coping with very wet roads at 6:30am.
I don't think they're that bad if yuo're riding to a reasonable limit on the road and surely they must meet or exceed some testing before being made available?
I considered using Shinkos again on my old Gixxer but scored some Michellin Pilot Powers for Shinko money

[Stromble]

Such a bin is easily entered into.

After the lunchbreak at the last MotoTT trackday at Taupo, I headed back out on Betty, and I was a bit tired and distracted.

Got to turn 5, a sharp 110-ish degree right hander, turned in on my usual line and just drifted myself straight off the left-hand side of the track.

Bumped over the grass for a bit, thought 'wtf', stopped and checked, then headed back on and continued around.

If I'd done that on a road with no safe runoff, I'd have been upside-down in a ditch, saying naughty words to myself.

Eternal vigilance is the key! Glad you're in one piece, tsmj.

Thanks Mate,

Good to hear it happens to others..

Obviously nothing like this has ever happened to Kittyhawk god forbid the outcome..

[Stromble]

Overconfident and understimated power of the bike, reading the road and knowing how to corner...

Your input created a negative output. It was not the bikes fault this happend.

When you realised you were over the line and hitting gravel you must have looked down in front, and thats where you would have gone...

If you had of looked through the corner, and focused on your exit point despite the surface changing, you would have had an oh fuck moment instead and carried on..

It's shit like this that gets to me...

Bad kitty day here

Poor Kitty.. why such a bad day.. surely its not my bin that angered you so..??

[Kittyhawk]

Poor Kitty.. why such a bad day.. surely its not my bin that angered you so..??

Nah twas the icing on the cake... spend a day with me and I'll get you riding so you wont arse off....

[Stromble]

Nah twas the icing on the cake... spend a day with me and I'll get you riding so you wont arse off....

Id love to.. always willing to learn more

[Kittyhawk]

Id love to.. always willing to learn more

lol make sure you pack well....

spare towel
extra underwear
sliders

[Stromble]

lol make sure you pack well....

spare towel
extra underwear
sliders

Spare Towel ??
Extra underwear - Fair enough..
Sliders - Oh Shit...

[Subike]

shenko tyres are no good on a light weight bike, they dont get hot enough to work. I use them on my old girl and have had no problems getting it to move where ever I point her.
I have read posts before about Shenko's, those who have had problems have all been riders of lightweights, can somebody point me to a heavy weight bike that has had problems with the Shenko"s?
I think that Target fixation may have been you downfall coupled with not looking at where you wanted to be rather than looking at where you were in the instant that you felt wrong
Good to know you are OK and only brused
Enjoy you next ride

[MVnut]

Trying to get a mental image of the situation.
Dry day -big right? hand sweeper you were cornering at 100km/h and ran off the road on the left?
3 possible senarios
1) you hit a tar snake and startd to slide
2)You target fixated and ran straight at the ditch
3)You simply forgot to lean

Not to suggest you aint tellin the truth --another possibility is that you were going a "bit" faster and simply underestimated how much you needed to lean

reckon Frosty got it with 'forgot to lean'.....me, I try not to think too much when I'm on a bike.........thinking too much usually gets me in the shit

[aff-man]

Glad to hear you didn't come off to bad mate....

Hey frostmister sorry but gonna have to disagree with you about them tyres..

Sure a noobs would probably not be able to tell a shinko from an M3 from a supercorsa from a whatever... But it doesn't mean that the tyres won't behave differently. Coming into a corner at say 100 clicks and tipping it in or not tipping it in, tyre profile and grip have a lot to do with how you come out the other side. Cheaper tyres that offer less grip will see you drifting (even if you are not aware of it) more than stickier ones. So although it is most likely rider error, given the same situation on different tryes may have given that extra edge. But for an unexperienced rider being able to use that extra edge is just luck...

Just my opinion but i've run cheaper tyres once or twice and is why i'll go for the ex racies over the new cheapies any day.