Crash and Burn mentality

[gav]

Andy Bolwell, multiple F3 champ, prob still has a bucket?

[chris]

Michael Esdaile
c/o Kiwi Rider
PO Box 299
Kumeu

Write to him directly, I'm sure he'd love to hear your points of view.

[Buddha#81:Me]

We sould get him to join here so we can linch him pubicly.......Has anyone got the article? I'm keen on reading it myself so I can form my own opinion. I'd hate to think a jurno has written an article without reserch......like that never happens!

[chris]

We sould get him to join here so we can linch him pubicly.......Has anyone got the article? I'm keen on reading it myself so I can form my own opinion. I'd hate to think a jurno has written an article without reserch......like that never happens!

Hmmm, ask him his opinion of internet forums and those users who regularly frequent them.

Oh, and another thing. You'll need to improve your spelling and grammar before taking him on...

[avgas]

he obviously has never been to sand sprints. that is crash and burn - we still have a xs750 back at my dads with a nice knobbly on it. rest of the bike is stuffed.
buckets i feel a more like necrophilia - playing with things that once were dead. rather than buying a brand new bike and killing it.

[avgas]

howsabout we find 3or 4 rg50's or nsr50's each and see what we can do for these dorkland kids

good luck with that concept - last time i looked rg50's are not the cheapest thing on the planet. Infact i have seen RG150's cheaper.

[Buddha#81:Me]

Oh, and another thing. You'll need to improve your spelling and grammar before taking him on...

Thanks Chris if I could spell, my grammar was ok and I could think clearly I'd be in a totally different occupation, after all school was where I ate my lunch. But thanks for pointing out my spelling is shite.......I don't wan't to "take him on". I'm interested what the guy has written about the sport I enjoy. I'd rather form my own opinion by having all the facts.

[chris]

Thanks Chris if I could spell, my grammar was ok and I could think clearly I'd be in a totally different occupation, after all school was where I ate my lunch. But thanks for pointing out my spelling is shite.......I don't wan't to "take him on". I'm interested what the guy has written about the sport I enjoy. I'd rather form my own opinion by having all the facts.

Buy a copy of KR, it's in there. I thought it was extremely well written and there's more to come in future issues. If anyone researches his facts, it's Mike. Writing in and questioning his article would be the way to go, so put your point of view forward after reading it.

I wasn't having a go at your spelling, rather that Mike would!

[oyster]

The context of his comment regarding the past, say 10 years ago when Bucket WAS crash and burn. If he hadn't said it still like this today, all would be fine. His mistake and I'm sure he'd be cool with that. If fact I KNOW he'd be thrilled to be proved wrong, that Buckets today by and large is on reliable, well ridden bikes with all the good safe principles of "full" road racing.

And I think too his main thought was the lack of structure to safely bring in new riders, particularly the young ones. But that is changing now, for sure.

As for his journalism, he impresses me he takes his time and gets good stuff out there. Not just quickly assembled "fluff" like most of them go for.

[007XX]

Having known Michael for a few years now, but knowing nothing about bucket racing, I would hate to comment. however, I'd say definitely have a chat to him directly. He's an awesome guy who is always ready to help, and has the knowledge to do so properly.

He is the kind of man who is smart enough to take constructive criticism, and who would be happy to debate an idea, and be glad to be proven wrong if it was the case.

And like Oyster said, Michael does research his topics very thoroughly as a habit, but is the first one to admit he can make mistakes.

Anyway, my 0.02 cent worth...

[Sully60]

He is the kind of man who is smart enough to take constructive criticism, and who would be happy to debate an idea, and be glad to be proven wrong if it was the case.

And like Oyster said, Michael does research his topics very thoroughly as a habit, but is the first one to admit he can make mistakes.

Anyway, my 0.02 cent worth...

Awwww,
We can' possibly burn him after that now can we?

, but knowing nothing about bucket racing, I would hate to comment.

Carefull there, I've seen your posts in a couple of bucket threads now, soon you'll be crawling around on he garage floor, swearing, looking for the last M6 nut you need to bolt on you new handmade exhaust bracket!


I would really like to see the full article and the subsequent articles in the series. Esdaile's been around for a while now I'm sure he sees the value in starting racers young and bucket racing may not be the ideal but what other choices do we have?

I find the percieved "resistance" to miniature road racing frustrating at best. I mean we can't let 11 and 12 year olds race a 100kg bike with 15hp around a closed , flat carpark, but the same kid could get a 25+hp bike and go do big double jumps at a motocross what's with that?

[enigma51]

another great right up from kiwirider GO KIWIRIDER

[Sully60]

another great right up from kiwirider GO KIWIRIDER

I'm overcome by the sincerity of that post enigma51, it's good to know the media in this country are (deservedly) held in high regard.

[007XX]

Awwww,
We can' possibly burn him after that now can we?

Stop it you ... Besides, Michael is so cool, even fire turns to ice when he's around...so there!

Carefull there, I've seen your posts in a couple of bucket threads now, soon you'll be crawling around on he garage floor, swearing, looking for the last M6 nut you need to bolt on you new handmade exhaust bracket!

Don't start with me...I can only sustain so many addictions

I would really like to see the full article and the subsequent articles in the series. Esdaile's been around for a while now I'm sure he sees the value in starting racers young and bucket racing may not be the ideal but what other choices do we have?

Me thinks I'm going to have to call him and give him a ruck up on this...

I think that introducing younguns to any sport is fantastic...heck, my son would love to start his own little quad racing if we could afford it...bucket racing is brilliant, so give it another couple of years, and i'll introduce him to it.

[enigma51]

I'm overcome by the sincerity of that post enigma51, it's good to know the media in this country are (deservedly) held in high regard.

They make wanna go out and buy two copies every day.




I dont think they are the worst mag out there but i compare them to Superbike (UK) and even some of the aussies mags and there is nothing in there that realy is going to make me wanna buy it. Dave can and has come up with some good stories but even then the most he gets is a one pager ....... if he's lucky. Just look at his fatboy youtube vid Briliant even though i dont want one I still watched it from start to end.

Everthing is always a repeat of what someone else said never real balls on the line statements. I know its hard to be able to test ride bikes in NZ but still there is a market out there for not so new things to be ridden and commented on.

Its purely my opinion so those of you who still buy KR good on you for supporting a Kiwi company