Has Motorcycling New Zealand lost all relevance?

[idleidolidyll]

Is that the same Briggs who was a mobile chicane on the same Super Duke at recent street meetings?

yeah, the same Briggs who often lead the race for a few laps on a bike with 50 less horsepower and who was told that he only slid because he was riding a motard (until he started doing the same on the Superduke)

Gimme a break mate, and if the Jappas are so yawny and boring but not the best bike on the track, ummmmmm, why isn't someone racing a Ducati or an Aprillia or a Super Duke (because you seem to think they're gods gift to motorcycling) in National Level Superbikes?

Sure, the rules are written to suit the jappas; that's the point aint it? Go do some reading, you've missed a lot

You're obssession with motards and Super Dukes is so laughable because you're now arguing exactly what you started off condeming with this thread, one sidedness in bike racing.

Again, go back and read before placing foot in mouth. A Yammy MT03 is NOT a motard, neither is a KTM Duke, neither is a Ducati Motostrada.

You're confusing yourself with a lack of knowledge

[idleidolidyll]

Yes indeed Frosty. The reason these bikes take such different lines is that the rake and trail figures are set for dirt. Reset them to road race figures and they will take almost the same lines and circulate faster.

Stephen Briggs sliding that Superduke just like a motard makes a dick of that statement.

He lead on a number of occasions out of the box and was way faster in the corners. He was passed under straight line speed in the end (50-70BHP more of it), not because of corner speed.

By the way, the Superduke is a road bike and has quite different rake, trail and steering angle to its supermoto brother the 950SM

[Robert Taylor]

Again, go back and read before placing foot in mouth. A Yammy MT03 is NOT a motard, neither is a KTM Duke, neither is a Ducati Motostrada.

You're confusing yourself with a lack of knowledge

Ho hum................Id personally like to say that by and large MNZ are doing a good job, not perfect but it must be a hell of a lot similiar to being a politician being subjected to polarised opinions and abuse.
Thankfully the people that run it from the top down are in no way obnoxious and overly foul of mouth. An aversion to being so is worthy of respect in itself.

[Tim 39]

Idle, keep the eye patch on your good eye. You obviously dont want to see what has probably been the best Nationals season of racing we have had for many years. It is on TVOne on April 20th for those interested.

Yay!!!!! finally they're showing it!!!!

[jrandom]

Ducati Motostrada

Ducati Multistrada, thank you very much. And quite lovely bikes they are too.

[idleidolidyll]

Ho hum................Id personally like to say that by and large MNZ are doing a good job, not perfect but it must be a hell of a lot similiar to being a politician being subjected to polarised opinions and abuse.
Thankfully the people that run it from the top down are in no way obnoxious and overly foul of mouth. An aversion to being so is worthy of respect in itself.

I'd say that over the thirty or so years I've raced and watched, MNZ has always pandered to the money and written the rules to spite the sport. That's why BEARs was so successful and why MNZ will continue to muddle along instead of inspire.

And given your history with MNZ, I'd expect you to spout the party line anyway

[Robert Taylor]

Stephen Briggs sliding that Superduke just like a motard makes a dick of that statement.

He lead on a number of occasions out of the box and was way faster in the corners. He was passed under straight line speed in the end (50-70BHP more of it), not because of corner speed.

By the way, the Superduke is a road bike and has quite different rake, trail and steering angle to its supermoto brother the 950SM

That is a different argument with its own reasons and you know it. He was prepared to hang out a bike with a lower polar moment of inertia, whilst this looks impressive on very tight street circuits it is rather less effective on larger closed courses.

[Burrt Badger]

Idle.
Insert your cranium back into your rectum and keep yourself satisfied!!!!
We are only talking about rules applying to National Championships. Clubs can run whatever class rules they want, as they do at the Sound of Thunder, the Auckland, Victoria, Pacific club series.
White Trash is exactly right. If the European bikes were able to compete someone would ride them.

[idleidolidyll]

Ducati Multistrada, thank you very much. And quite lovely bikes they are too.

wodeva!

a hypermoto is pretty much a multistrada with pretty clothes.

despite what has been said, they are road bikes not motards. that said of course, they'd be banned from F3 if they had 750cc motors because their bars would be too high.....................................

[Burrt Badger]

Tim39.
Go to nzsbk.co.nz for a rundown on what is on and when

[Robert Taylor]

I'd say that over the thirty or so years I've raced and watched, MNZ has always pandered to the money and written the rules to spite the sport. That's why BEARs was so successful and why MNZ will continue to muddle along instead of inspire.

And given your history with MNZ, I'd expect you to spout the party line anyway

Change that please to ''given your perceived history with MNZ...........''

[idleidolidyll]

Idle.
Insert your cranium back into your rectum and keep yourself satisfied!!!!
We are only talking about rules applying to National Championships. Clubs can run whatever class rules they want, as they do at the Sound of Thunder, the Auckland, Victoria, Pacific club series.
White Trash is exactly right. If the European bikes were able to compete someone would ride them.

wow! stupidity shines so brightly

didn't a Euro bike win the WSB AND GP1?

[jrandom]

polar moment of inertia

[Burrt Badger]

Yes, and can you buy one of them to race anywhere in the World?????
NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[idleidolidyll]

Change that please to ''given your perceived history with MNZ...........''

you spout your silly perceptions and i'll spout mine: nothing ever changes