Repco or Super Cheap?

[sAsLEX]

Yes bike shops can be just as guilty but you really should insist on genuine. Some filters that I had tested a few years back had only 65% of the paper area of genuine and poor filtration capacity. You know the sad thing is our children are going to have little or no conception of quality.

But are "Genuine" always this way?


Should we always use "Genuine" shock absorbers for example?


There is nothing stopping an aftermarket company meeting or exceeding the manufacturers parts.

[Robert Taylor]

Speaking of which.. Who here buys their tools at a general store like Super cheap? and Who Buys their tools from a specific tooling shop? (Blackwoods &Paykels, Trade Tools etc) I get all my tools through Blackwoods and Paykels, service is Utter SHIT* but with 40% off and an account there its almost worth it

If you are a proffessinal using hand tools day in day out it is important that they are finished smoothly so they are not hard on your hands. Many of the allen key / torx bits you buy of Chinese origin also have the torsional twist resistance of butter

[jonbuoy]

Yes bike shops can be just as guilty but you really should insist on genuine. Some filters that I had tested a few years back had only 65% of the paper area of genuine and poor filtration capacity. You know the sad thing is our children are going to have little or no conception of quality.

Thats sad but true - if you make it cheap enough no one cares if it works or not. I bought some cheap carb rebuild kits off ebay, after having various intermittent flooding and overflow problems I've chucked the 30 year old Honda float valves back in - no hassles since.

[Robert Taylor]

But are "Genuine" always this way?


Should we always use "Genuine" shock absorbers for example?


There is nothing stopping an aftermarket company meeting or exceeding the manufacturers parts.

You know the answer, there are many aftermarket accessories that are just plain dodgy and others that do improve performance markedly You know how to differentiate.

Sadly, when it comes to expendable such as oil filters, batteries, bulbs etc there is a lot of dodgy stuff out there. And probably a lot more to come now that we have a free trade deal.

[McDuck]

If you are a proffessinal using hand tools day in day out it is important that they are finished smoothly so they are not hard on your hands. Many of the allen key / torx bits you buy of Chinese origin also have the torsional twist resistance of butter

I went into a shop, cant remember what it was, got a spanner. Fully recommended. i said 'if i bend it do i get a new one' he said yes (people who know me will know that i have the potential to bend stuff), bent it, took it back, ungraded it, he said 'you will not bent this bitch'

bent that one and the dude gave me a powerbuilt one which is still going.

[speights_bud]

If you are a proffessinal using hand tools day in day out it is important that they are finished smoothly so they are not hard on your hands. Many of the allen key / torx bits you buy of Chinese origin also have the torsional twist resistance of butter

Agreed, Im A Toolie and prefer Quality Gear as its got to last me for a long time, Yet some of the Gear from general shops isn't half bad. I use cheap tools at home for a few things but bring my good ones from work when it comes to any decent job (stripping engines and the likes)

[McDuck]

You know the answer, there are many aftermarket accessories that are just plain dodgy and others that do improve performance markedly You know how to differentiate.

Sadly, when it comes to expendable such as oil filters, batteries, bulbs etc there is a lot of dodgy stuff out there. And probably a lot more to come now that we have a free trade deal.

Do you really think it will make a differance? If kiwis want to buy cheep crap they will buy cheep crap.

[Duke girl]

Is that why your eyes r always bloodshot AJ?. And hears me thinking it was all the late nights u have.

[Robert Taylor]

Do you really think it will make a differance? If kiwis want to buy cheep crap they will buy cheep crap.

Of course, but it seems like its almost a crime to advocate doing things properly with parts of appropriate rather than dismal quality! Cheap comes at a price.

[FROSTY:Me]

Robert comeon you are kidding right?
An NGK bpr8es is a NGK bpr8es no matter where it comes from. A lucas bulb is a lucas bulb.
Im not arguing re oil filters
But general consumables are identical -same source even

[McDuck]

Of course, but it seems like its almost a crime to advocate doing things properly with parts of appropriate rather than dismal quality! Cheap comes at a price.

Well i am welcoming the free trade deal with open arms. Why? I am in the kiwifruit industry which will export high grade fruit to the top end consumers in china.


We all have a choice as to what quality level we buy, just a lot of people are to stupid to use it.

[Robert Taylor]

Robert comeon you are kidding right?
An NGK bpr8es is a NGK bpr8es no matter where it comes from. A lucas bulb is a lucas bulb.
Im not arguing re oil filters
But general consumables are identical -same source even

No thats actually not what I was intimating. NGK spark plugs are a well proven and trusted brand.

There are bulbs out there from different manufacturers that fail more readily and that is in part because they are often less resistant to high frequency vibration, more common in motorcycles.

Batteries, there are some dreadful Chinese batteries out there.

Etc....

[Robert Taylor]

Well i am welcoming the free trade deal with open arms. Why? I am in the kiwifruit industry which will export high grade fruit to the top end consumers in china.


We all have a choice as to what quality level we buy, just a lot of people are to stupid to use it.

I agree with you on that point, abundantly so. Also point 2 but probably would have been a little more diplomatic!

Anything that helps our exports is great as we are disproptionately importing too much, especially useless rubbish. It is the very flipside to exporting that we should all be a little worried about. Time will tell....

[ynot slow]

Unfortunately supercheap and repco are open 7 days,most bike shops open sat mornings or till 1.30 ish,that is in Taranaki anyway.Add to that closing around 5pm weekdays as well leaves little time outside lunch break to pick up bike parts from bike shops.

And no I don't expect bike shops to be open all hours,just means to get items needed for weekend I need to be organised to pickup items say thurs or friday,so check out bike shop monday for filters etc,so can be in shop later in the week.

I picked up my oil and filter from a bike shop in Stratford during my lunch break,they had to get filter in,but was next day and was able to do on weekend.

Interestingly the filter was uniflo?and when getting oil for cars to change saw supersheep had the same make of bike filters for sale,not sure if my bikes' one was available though.Also they had the same battery I bought from an auto sparky,mind you same price as mine was cash price from sparky and fully charged as well,something supersheep don't do.

I would use supercheap or repco if they are a lot cheaper than a bike shop,but if say $1 or 3 cheaper for a 4ltr oil pack use the bike shop,spark plugs as said if a few $$ dearer for 4,but if plugs are $20 dearer set nope.

[FROSTY:Me]

No thats actually not what I was intimating. NGK spark plugs are a well proven and trusted brand.

There are bulbs out there from different manufacturers that fail more readily and that is in part because they are often less resistant to high frequency vibration, more common in motorcycles.

Batteries, there are some dreadful Chinese batteries out there.

Etc....

yea and said batteries/bulbs are available from bike shops as well as car accessory shops.
The issue isn't who's selling the battery/bulb the issue is the source.