Manawatu Rant n Rave

[robertydog]

No good Jono. Glad you are in one piece. Hope everything turns out ok.

[chanceyy]

Ya seen what that female?leading the country does,yeah right tui anyone.

quite frankly it would not matter which party is in "power" or who leads it they are all as bad as each other .. & I hope your not tarring all woman with the same brush Tony

[blacksheep]

sorry to hear about off jono,get well soon eh.give you time to think of a replacement!

[ynot slow]

quite frankly it would not matter which party is in "power" or who leads it they are all as bad as each other .. & I hope your not tarring all woman with the same brush Tony

Never there isn't a brush big enough to tar all women.Will agree with ya on power people hehe.Must go and clean up tea dishes etc,now where's that kitchen light.

[chanceyy]

Never there isn't a brush big enough to tar all women.Will agree with ya on power people hehe.Must go and clean up tea dishes etc,now where's that kitchen light.

uh huh get back in the kitchen tony ...

[ynot slow]

uh huh get back in the kitchen tony ...

YES mum Was asked to adjust she who must be obeyeds' watch for daylight saving last week,I said I've done it,nope was reply,yep I said the clock on the stove and microwave is done.Was rather that day.

[cowboyz]

Put quite alot of thought into this video before posting it and I have tentative approval from the rider.

there are 2 reasons I wanted to put this video up and neither of them are to bag the riders skills. IMO the accident was a fairly classic mix of what happens when you lose concentration and panic added to lack of commitment to a corner. Hopefully this will put some thought into how eaisly things can go wrong. Too much inappropriate comments and I will remove the video.

I have been an advocator of ride your own ride for a long time and I will be the first to start a red repping onslaught to any who simply want to make themselves out to be a big man and bag the riding. I would however, like people to see how quickly things can go from good to bad with a little distraction or confusion. It is very rare that you get to catch a full crash on video (thank god) so interesting to see what really happened.
I was (obviously) right behind him and got a first hand look at the accident but as soon as the smoke appeared I didnt see anything else at the time. It snapped me into an intense concentration on everything else to ensure I wasnt following him into the bank.

Really hope this doesnt turn to shit.

[chanceyy]

ouchy Yod .. no wonder your sore ...

can I ask a noob kinda question .. did you lock the back brake & it made the front unstable resulting in the highside just watching the smoke coming off the rear tire & not understanding dynamics, thats why I am asking

[cowboyz]

From my perpective it went like this.

coming along the striaght over crest
Not sure where corner is
hit both brakes.
Front loads up making rear light. (because now going downhill)
lets brakes off because rear is fishtailing (thats the first squiggle)
brian cant compute exactly what is going on, where the road went. thoughts start focusing on the bank.
panic
jumps on brakes again, this time harder
Front loads up shitloads. rear gets very light
rear lock = lots o smoke.
bike out of control.
eject
wait for everything to stop.

[Grub]

Ooops, looks like the video has been pulled offline by someone.

Jono you weren't a long-time dirt bike rider were you? I was and instinct sent me for the back brake instead of the front. I don't know what happened next, there was just a whole bunch of people standing around asking if I had been concussed - to which of course I said "no" (duh, I was knocked out, how did I know!). I still don't know what happened, would love to have a vid of it.

You got of lightly and that's a blessing - bugger about the bike. At least you can earn some Style Points.

[chanceyy]

From my perpective it went like this.

coming along the striaght over crest
Not sure where corner is
hit both brakes.
Front loads up making rear light. (because now going downhill)
lets brakes off because rear is fishtailing (thats the first squiggle)
brian cant compute exactly what is going on, where the road went. thoughts start focusing on the bank.
panic
jumps on brakes again, this time harder
Front loads up shitloads. rear gets very light
rear lock = lots o smoke.
bike out of control.
eject
wait for everything to stop.

thanks for clarifying .. its point 4 I missed & was trying to work out why rear fishtailed

[cowboyz]

video is there. I dont embed my videos. you have to go to the link in my sig

[86GSXR]

Yes, a nasty incident alright. Good on you Cowboyz for posting this, and good on you Yod for agreeing to it. It raises some salient issues which should concern all bikers and it should hopefully be a valuable learning tool for everyone who gets on a bike and takes to the road.

[yod]

My thoughts....

I approached a blind crest with no knowledge of what lay beyond and although I wasn't doing excessive speed (IMO), I failed to reduce speed enough to put me in a position to deal with any situation that may have arisen on the other side of the crest. To that end, I was riding beyond my level of skill. For all i knew there could have been any one of a hundred hazards that I may not have been able to avoid. I can only say I'm lucky it was simply the lay of the road that I wasn't prepared for meaning it was simply a slide into the ditch rather than a sudden stop into a tonne or two of steel (for example).

It wasn't from riding irresponsibly in the classic sense, ie: excessive speed, or stupid actions, but it was certainly irresponsible (and selfish, when you think about it) to not have 100% of my mind on the job and at the end of the day it doesnt really matter what you did wrong; if you bin it, you bin it. I am very conscious of how much of a complete pain in the arse this incident was to many people. They are all absolute champions for sorting my shit out after my cognitive lapse. (It's nice to know you're surrounded by good people).

The corner was ugly. In that sense, I hope my crash helps initiate an upgrade or a new warning sign to help others avoid a similar fate.

I'm battered, grazed, swollen and damn sore all over but my pride is just as bruised. I'm not proud of the incident, I'm suitably ashamed. It was completely avoidable but I didn't avoid it.

"Eyes open, mind on the job, all of the time." I can only hope I can manage that from now on.

[Owl]

My thoughts....

I approached a blind crest with no knowledge of what lay beyond and although I wasn't doing excessive speed (IMO), I failed to reduce speed enough to put me in a position to deal with any situation that may have arisen on the other side of the crest. To that end, I was riding beyond my level of skill. For all i knew there could have been any one of a hundred hazards that I may not have been able to avoid. I can only say I'm lucky it was simply the lay of the road that I wasn't prepared for meaning it was simply a slide into the ditch rather than a sudden stop into a tonne or two of steel (for example).

It wasn't from riding irresponsibly in the classic sense, ie: excessive speed, or stupid actions, but it was certainly irresponsible (and selfish, when you think about it) to not have 100% of my mind on the job and at the end of the day it doesnt really matter what you did wrong; if you bin it, you bin it. I am very conscious of how much of a complete pain in the arse this incident was to many people. They are all absolute champions for sorting my shit out after my cognitive lapse. (It's nice to know you're surrounded by good people).

The corner was ugly. In that sense, I hope my crash helps initiate an upgrade or a new warning sign to help others avoid a similar fate.

I'm battered, grazed, swollen and damn sore all over but my pride is just as bruised. I'm not proud of the incident, I'm suitably ashamed. It was completely avoidable but I didn't avoid it.

"Eyes open, mind on the job, all of the time." I can only hope I can manage that from now on.

Glad to hear you're somewhat ok yod, with no permanent injuries I hope. Cheers for posting the video Cowboyz (with kind permission)! I do hope it can stay a while!