The money or the moon?

[skidMark]

Which is more than can be said of the narrow minded and miserable souls who belittle you (and the dolphins)

Honda riders for example?

[Ixion]

Do dolphins ride Hondas? It would explain a lot.

[hXc]

i suppose it would be good to be the first person on the moon

You don't seriously believe that bullshit conspiracy do you?

I would choose neither. Going to the moon would not bring me happiness. Nor would $1m. We have enough problems with human nature on Earth alone, so forget taking them anywhere else. Sort the shit out here first. Sort out the poverty, the genocide, the abuse of power. Sort out the apathy and the ignorance to the problems of present day society. Don't look to the past, 'cause the past didn't work. If it did work, we wouldn't be where we are.

Look to the future, find new ways of using your intelligence (however little it may be) to make a difference in the world we live in today.

[Nagash]

Give me the money...

Have too many material things that i'd rather have then bouncing around on the moon for a bit.

[skidMark]

Do dolphins ride Hondas? It would explain a lot.

I'm not too sure, Alot in what way great profit?

[Jeremy]

Can I have a universal constructor instead?

[onearmedbandit]

You don't seriously believe that bullshit conspiracy do you?

I would choose neither. Going to the moon would not bring me happiness. Nor would $1m. We have enough problems with human nature on Earth alone, so forget taking them anywhere else. Sort the shit out here first. Sort out the poverty, the genocide, the abuse of power. Sort out the apathy and the ignorance to the problems of present day society. Don't look to the past, 'cause the past didn't work. If it did work, we wouldn't be where we are.

Look to the future, find new ways of using your intelligence (however little it may be) to make a difference in the world we live in today.

Yeah, but all that aside, if you had to choose one, which one?

[hXc]

Yeah, but all that aside, if you had to choose one, which one?

If it was a matter of life or slow and extremely painful death, I would choose the money. And I would then spend the majority of that money on efforts to help those who need it.

The reason I say slow and extremely painful death is because death itself does not scare me. What happens or doesn't happen after death does not scare me. The only thing about death and dying that scares me is how it happens. I want it to be quick and painless, over in a second. Not slow and painful.

[Ixion]

Sort out the apathy and the ignorance to the problems of present day society. Don't look to the past, 'cause the past didn't work. If it did work, we wouldn't be where we are.

Look to the future, find new ways of using your intelligence (however little it may be) to make a difference in the world we live in today.

No, we would be living in caves. That is said as a challenge, not a denigration.

Dream the dream, but every dream builds on some foundation. Humanity today is in a better state than it ever has been. Your task is to build on that, to take it forward, noit to deny your inheritance.

What is YOUR great dream for mankind?

[Ixion]

And if any narrow minded dreary little inadequate mod consigns this to PD I will *personally* seek you out. This is one of the most germinal posts in KB in years. If you lackthe intellectual capacity to understand that, that is a reflection of *your* inadequacy, buggee off somewhere else, like 'Over the Teacups' and don't inflict your own stupidity on those whom you cannot understand

[Nagash]

My dream for man kind.. to build an I-pod with a 300GB hard drive! Too fit all my muzik on it.

What is YOUR great dream for mankind?

[Ixion]

It's not so great a dream. Maybe one or two years time. But, go forth and DO it,.

But , why not an iPod with UNLIMITED storeage. One that can not only store your songs, but DVDs , thoughts, even your very essence. An Ipod that could capture *you* , the being that you are , and store it for all time. Immortality!

If you are going to dream, dream MIGHTY dreams.



EDIT: I don't deal in anything less than petabytes nowdays. Gigabytes is so 20th century.

[hXc]

No, we would be living in caves. That is said as a challenge, not a denigration.

Dream the dream, but every dream builds on some foundation. Humanity today is in a better state than it ever has been. Your task is to build on that, to take it forward, noit to deny your inheritance.

What is YOUR great dream for mankind?

I say don't look to the past, meaning don't copy exactly what they did in the past. Because the majority of their 'solutions' didn't work.

I do agree that you need inspiration for a dream, a foundation to base it upon.

My great dream is that the media stop controlling our lives. That the news actually becomes news again, not a twisted version of what's kind of happening in the world. That each country is a super power in it's own right. As it stands, America pretty much has control over the majority of the (western) world. And that's what I find sad. That one country, can dictate what happens anywhere. George Bush isn't the main problem either, it's the corporations which have so much control over the media, over the American government that are the problem.

I also dream of peace between countries. The problems in Africa, Asia, the Middle East etc, to be solved. The totalitarian societies to cease their control, for a revolution of everything.

Yeh, some of my dreams are far off, and I accept that. But some of them aren't. It's not hard to make just a little bit of difference in the world. If a kid asks you to sponsor them for 40hr famine, do it. If someone has a dream of helping the needy or starting a revolution, don't give them any reason to believe it's not possible. It all starts with you. One small action on your part can save one kid's life. And one kid's life, is helping all of future to come.

[skidMark]

If it was a matter of life or slow and extremely painful death, I would choose the money. And I would then spend the majority of that money on efforts to help those who need it.

The reason I say slow and extremely painful death is because death itself does not scare me. What happens or doesn't happen after death does not scare me. The only thing about death and dying that scares me is how it happens. I want it to be quick and painless, over in a second. Not slow and painful.

Yet, you ride motorbikes.

News flash bro, bike crashes are rarely a quick and painless end if that is how you end up going (i realise you are not trying to imply in this instance that this is how you would prefer to go)

I would rather go some other way though than wasting away in a rest home having somebody, look after me wipe my arse etc. Thats not living.

Skid.

[Ixion]

I say don't look to the past, meaning don't copy exactly what they did in the past. Because the majority of their 'solutions' didn't work.

I do agree that you need inspiration for a dream, a foundation to base it upon.

My great dream is that the media stop controlling our lives. That the news actually becomes news again, not a twisted version of what's kind of happening in the world. That each country is a super power in it's own right. As it stands, America pretty much has control over the majority of the (western) world. And that's what I find sad. That one country, can dictate what happens anywhere. George Bush isn't the main problem either, it's the corporations which have so much control over the media, over the American government that are the problem.

I also dream of peace between countries. The problems in Africa, Asia, the Middle East etc, to be solved. The totalitarian societies to cease their control, for a revolution of everything.

Yeh, some of my dreams are far off, and I accept that. But some of them aren't. It's not hard to make just a little bit of difference in the world. If a kid asks you to sponsor them for 40hr famine, do it. If someone has a dream of helping the needy or starting a revolution, don't give them any reason to believe it's not possible. It all starts with you. One small action on your part can save one kid's life. And one kid's life, is helping all of future to come.

I am humbled.

I don't think your dream will come to pass. But that is because I am old and cynical.

When Martin Luther King dreamed his dream , I imagine that old cynical black folk told him it would never happen.

So , if you are youff, don't listen to old nay sayers like me.

But, how is all that going to get us to the Moon? That is a serious question.

Ideals are easy to dream, but casting them into the matrix of flawed humanity is a harder task. My generation's ideal was of man spreading out to the stars . Yours has accepted a less wide ranging ambition. But , just as we argued and set out how our ideal might be achieved (alas , I fear it never will be, and my own personal dieal , to die on the soil of another planet, is impossible. Icahbod) , so must you argue for your ideal and formulate HOW it may be achieved. To be sure , you may never get there. But just setting out the journey path will change humanity in itself.