McDuck had a bin last night....

[gijoe1313]

Proops Glad to hear you are okay and ATGATT did the job (just) this time! Just remember to reflect on everything you did and try and recall the sequence of events.

Hope you heal up quick and get the bike back to tip top form for riding again!

[Quasievil]

Shit not good McDuck, at least youre okay, thats the main thing, gear well its irrelevant insurance will take care of that, injury well thats another story.

[Goblin]

**Resists feeding the troll**

Resisting feeding the troll??? You are the troll skiddy. Your lame threads asking for advice about life changing decisions then ignore all the good advice. Turn down job offers from genuine good bastards then moan about KBers giving you shit?

Don't judge somebody who you havn't ridden with and do not know, this thread is not about me.

If you have a bone to pick bring it up in another thread or via PM.

Skid.

I only judge you by the stuff you post in here and going by your past, you're hardly in a position to be telling anyone else about learning are you??

I havn't fed him in a way that will trigger an outburst. He just needs to realise hes not a child, and there is a line.

Skid.

This thread aint about Katman either but you have quoted him and replied in a childish manner. How old are you again? Maybe you could come to grips with being an adult and start taking responsibility for your own actions.


Sorry for the slight hijack McDuck. Bummer about your bin. Glad you're ok. FWIW Katman has a good point. Blaming tyres and diesel is a cop out. Did any other vehicles skid or spin out on the diesel? You cant learn from your mistakes if you dont acknowledge them.

Hope your knees aren't too sore.

[McDuck]

Sorry for the slight hijack McDuck. Bummer about your bin. Glad you're ok. FWIW Katman has a good point. Blaming tyres and diesel is a cop out. Did any other vehicles skid or spin out on the diesel? You cant learn from your mistakes if you dont acknowledge them.

Hope your knees aren't too sore.

Re read what i wrote, i am blaming my decision to fit crap tyres. And not looking properly where i was going. ultimately i blame myself weather it is for putting the crap tyres on or hitting the diesel... i am quite happy to look at all decisions i made that contributed tot he crash. If the tyres let go when i feel they shouldn't have then i will say that and say i should not have put them on to start with.

[Matt_TG]

Household contents insurance will replace your gear, we have claimed twice successfully and is well worth trying. They were very expensive leathers werent they, and oh yes the helmet was very expensive (and damaged - sledge hammer helps) too

Good luck with that, they won't be covered on a replacement basis under any policy (contents or bike) but whatever you get will be something towards new gear. You may find that your contents policy will limit the value claimable for motor accessories/clothing.

Unit ... you naughty girl Don't do anything to make it look more damaged than it is (helmet etc). Basically once it's screwed it's screwed - making the dent look bigger will only make those with enquiring minds look deeper...

[MSTRS:Me]

Re read what i wrote, i am blaming my decision to fit crap tyres. And not looking properly where i was going. ultimately i blame myself weather it is for putting the crap tyres on or hitting the diesel... i am quite happy to look at all decisions i made that contributed tot he crash. If the tyres let go when i feel they shouldn't have then i will say that and say i should not have put them on to start with.

If you hit diesel, good tyres prolly wouldn't have helped. It's slippery shit and nothing sticks to it. Can be hard to see too. Put it down to bad luck, and remember to expect the unexpected.

[Goblin]

I think i hit desial but all i know is the back end went out and left me on the ground. It happened very quickly.


Lessons Learnt:
Good quality tyres on the back. I think if i had a good tyre on the back i may have been able to save it.
ATGATT. I would be in a large world of hurt if i hadn't been in full gear.
Keep a better eye on the road surface.
and real leather next time.

Yes McDuck. It ALWAYS happens very quickly. If it were diesel on the road the front would have gone first and it still would have happened very quickly. A good tyre on the back wouldn't have made the slightest difference. It is also a good idea to have a good trye on the front too.
I agree that leather is better. Keeping aware of road conditions and riding within your abilities goes a long way toward staying upright.

[mowgli]

Oh BTW i was going not more than 60-70kph at the time.

To a noob, 60-70kph sounds pretty quick though a hair pin. Would you say you were pushing it just a little?

[McDuck]

To a noob, 60-70kph sounds pretty quick though a hair pin. Would you say you were pushing it just a little?

Coming out of a hairpin... on a decant sprot bike that corner would be 50kph... and i am not exactly a noob....

[mowgli]

Coming out of a hairpin... on a decant sprot bike that corner would be 50kph... and i am not exactly a noob....

Sorry. My bad. I'm the noob. Didn't mean you. I wasn't trying to suggest you were going too quick at all.

I was just trying to figure out whether at the speeds I take corners whether I'd be vulnerable to the same unforeseen hazard that got you. I assume you're more experienced than I. So if you were pushing "even a little" then I'd expect to be much slower. Prolly a stupid debate with no clear answer possible.

Glad to hear you're okay.

[McDuck]

Sorry. My bad. I'm the noob. Didn't mean you. I wasn't trying to suggest you were going too quick at all.

I was just trying to figure out whether at the speeds I take corners whether I'd be vulnerable to the same unforeseen hazard that got you. I assume you're more experienced than I. So if you were pushing "even a little" then I'd expect to be much slower. Prolly a stupid debate with no clear answer possible.

Glad to hear you're okay.

Every corner is different. hook in with a top notch rider (like MSTRS) and get them to teach you about what sort of lines to take, hazard spotting etc. The most important bit of taking corners is getting good lines etc. How i workout my cornering speed is about the recommended speed plus 40% (ON CORNERS I KNOW) with appropriate throttle application going out of the corner. That said work it out for yourself to what you feal safe with.

[Mike748]

Bad luck about the bin, but glad u could walk away from it.

Just an observation, and I know every accident is different but comparing the damage to your gear against mine (Revit summer stuff) from my recent off then I reckon you were either moving a tad faster than you stated or that gear is crap.

Like you I'm also switching to leathers now.

[Grub]

i am blaming my decision to fit crap tyres..

So what tyres were they and what choices did you have? Very useful to know for future reference

[Goblin]

How i workout my cornering speed is about the recommended speed plus 40% with appropriate throttle application going out of the corner.

So what do you do when there's no recommended speed sign?

[DUCATI*HARD]

[QUOTE=McDuck;1532412]
Pants are totally and absolutely stuffed. Brand spanking new to.
Jacket, small tear in elbow, will still replace
Helmet, no damage, will replace.
Gloves, no damage will re-use
Boots, no damage will re-use.

at least you get to buy some new gear