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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    Ahem... since when was NextStep OpenSource? Or are you talking OpenBSD?"
    Sigh, no, FreeBSD 5. Why don't you go look here? http://developer.apple.com/opensource/index.html. Quoting part of the first line:
    "If you like open source development, you'll love Mac OS X. This fully-conformant UNIX operating system—built on Mach 3.0 and FreeBSD 5..."

    Not to mention part of the first paragraph at http://www.apple.com/opensource/
    "Major components of Mac OS X, including the UNIX-based core, are made available under Apple’s Open Source license,..."

    Not the part which enabled the exploit. So there's not really much of a difference between a browser hack and a Flash exploit.
    Oh piss off. As you said, the rendering engine is open source, nothing is obfuscated or hidden. Apple developers were able to see every line of code they implemented in the default browser for the OS. They missed a vulnerability in their testing and allowed it to go out. You don't install the browser separately, it's supplied in the default installation of the OS. You don't think there were plenty of other things they found, modified the code and supplied back to the project? That's how opensource works. I guarantee that Safari received a shitload more testing from Apple than Adobe Flash ever did. Safari was written and supplied by Apple and they had far more opportunity to test it. I don't blame Apple and I doubt many people do. No single team of developers is going to find every problem, but the fact remains that they missed one and they have no one but themselves to blame. I haven't seen anything from Apple to say they don't think it was their responsibility. They just patched it in a timely manner (how often have you seen Microsoft delay and refuse to admit a problem until they have no choice?), and got on with it. The fact that they were able to patch it so quickly with additional javascript validation shows that it was not that difficult or obscure a bug.


    What we can take out of this whole thing is that:

    1. The ex-NSA bloke who exploited the Webkit vulnerability was a Unix expert.
    Can we now? Can you please post any link that supports this? The most I've seen is that he got paid $50k in 2005 for delivering a linux bug to an undisclosed government agency. If that is the case, it is really stretching to describe someone probably paid as a contractor, to be an employee. And despite the fact that he was a Unix expert, he chose to attack the Mac rather than the Ubuntu linux box. Interesting statement in itself, don't you think?
    2. Third-party developers are a big problem security-wise
    3. Most OS's are pretty secure anyway.
    Don't basically disagree with either of those. Apple is paying the price for becoming more successful. They're selling way more, so way more people are becoming intimately familiar with their workings. Because there are so many more targets than there used to be, the losers are turning their attention to the new (ish) kid. Third party apps are mostly a problem because the bulk of the comapnies lack the resources to carry out the level of testing that Apple or Microsoft do. The ones that care and are in it for the long run rely on their intimate knowledge of their own product. Excluding Redhat Enterprise/CentOS, when you consider how the other Linux distributions are put together, it's amazing that they're as secure as they are. Those distributions are effectively all third party applications.
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    Quote Originally Posted by figjam View Post

    Errr he put it first... and was being sarcastic...

    You my good sir are a class a moron.

    Like me... welcome to the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    Not sure why the server's still up, though; if it were mine, I'd yank its interweb plugs while patching it up to date and doing a lockdown on whatever extraneous services it's running. In fact, given that it's been compromised, I'd run an immediate backup on the forum database, then just rebuild the machine from scratch (securely, this time) and reinstall the forum software with its current data before going live again.
    Bah sometimes its just laziness,
    Right now i type this i type this on a laptop with porn encrusted XP sitting on it (I have vista sitting 2 inches from me - but that will happen tomorrow), my linux box has a serious resolution issue (lurvely and fuzzy), misses PC has enough spyware to crash the wireless network (which is currently on *default-192.168.0.1* settings). The work dell has a version of DIGSI that is stuffed, and conflicting SQL databases (Goldmine and MySQL). The only up to date PC in this house is the torrent PC running XP SP3....which only has 2GB left on the drive.
    So i can sympathize a bit with Quasi in the aspect that nothing is ever sorted.
    God dammit this post wont load due to F-Secure noting SQL mass postings. Spank it told me to tell you to check database is ok
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    So what about my credit card details that were used/saved? on your site Qausi?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macstar View Post
    So what about my credit card details that were used/saved? on your site Qausi?
    CREDIT CARD DETAILS ARE NOT USED OR SAVED ON OUR SITE.

    We use DPS an encrypted external bank credit card system, Additionally this has not affected QUASiMOTO.co.nz, Only SPORTSBIKE.co.nz

    there is NO NEED TO WORRY.
    Ive run out of fucks to give

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quasievil View Post
    CREDIT CARD DETAILS ARE NOT USED OR SAVED ON OUR SITE.

    We use DPS an encrypted external bank credit card system, Additionally this has not affected QUASiMOTO.co.nz, Only SPORTSBIKE.co.nz

    there is NO NEED TO WORRY.
    I think he means if sent via PM

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    Sysadmin for hire.

    Expert in security (although no one is above getting truly hacked)

    Loves motorbikes, margaritas, and walking in the rain

    offers sensible hosting prices for small to medium websites.

    contact: please_do_not_hack_me_mr@mcrides.co.nz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quasievil View Post
    Thats beyond me, ports open ???
    Might be something to do with me abusing some fucking arab spammer telling him I was going to get Jihad on his Muslim Arse ?

    No worries will be up soon............. i hope
    It probably happened to everyone who has a hosting account on the server you use. I suspect you have your site hosted in the US? You really shouldnt be :P

    PM me if you want some help sorting it out or some ideas about hosting.

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    I see that the whole site has been hacked - not just the homepage. All changed to some mid-eastern language and reading right to left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marty View Post
    I see that the whole site has been hacked - not just the homepage. All changed to some mid-eastern language and reading right to left.
    Hey Marty, how did you get in past the home page to find that out? Also did you receive a PM on SB about a week ago from a "Scott" someone or other appearing to be a long lost aquantance and wanting to make contact with you? I did but i did'nt reply as have had some Spam by PM on there lately.
    Could have been quite innocent or something to do with the latest problem there. Has Bret given any indication as to when he may be up and running again?

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbo View Post
    Also did you receive a PM on SB about a week ago from a "Scott" someone or other appearing to be a long lost aquantance and wanting to make contact with you? I did but i did'nt reply as have had some Spam by PM on there lately.
    Could have been quite innocent or something to do with the latest problem there. Has Bret given any indication as to when he may be up and running again?

    Cheers
    Hey, I got a pm from that guy but never even opened, as you say because of all the spam that'd been hitting SB. I was thinking the same thing.....
    Some people just need to get a life!!
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    mmmm do I tell people people about the "other" other site? before I finish it?

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    All sites get spammers ,cant help that once identified they get delelted quickly.
    Hope to have it back up soon, we are working on it, so much for my weekend!!
    thanks for your patience
    Ive run out of fucks to give

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