JOHN BAKER INSURANCE -how good are they?

[Virago]

Are you guys finished?

As supposed insurance professionals, this petty bickering does you little credit.

[Oscar]

Saying it twice don't make it right...

So if the company you work for doesn't own Star, who do you actually work for? A large corporate, by any chance?

[Oscar]

Are you guys finished?

As supposed insurance professionals, this petty bickering does you little credit.

I'm not interested in credit.
I'm just trying to shed a little light on the subject.

[jetboy]

Saying it twice don't make it right...

Ok, John Baker Insurance is 100% owned by AON - the world's largest insurance broker.

Are you guys finished?

As supposed insurance professionals, this petty bickering does you little credit.

Agreed. Hence my withdrawal from this thread.

[Usarka]

well thats me confused. so john baker (the person) owns star insurance, but Aon owns John baker ltd....?

doesnt matter i dont trust any of you insurance fullas anyways

[jrandom]

well thats me confused. so john baker (the person) owns star insurance, but Aon owns John baker ltd....?

Who gives a flying fuck, so long as premiums are reasonable and claims are settled fairly and promptly?

Let's face it, motorcycle insurance in NZ is a boutique industry. Star and Swann are the only companies offering policies suited to the majority of KB members. Protecta, State and AA Insurance offer "similarly priced, but we'll never pay out on a claim" policies, while Classic Cover et al offer policies to the lowest-risk end of the market. That's it, that's all there is to it. (Did I forget anybody?)

The brokers are there so that you have a single friendly guy that you can get to know on a first-name basis to talk to about your policy details and handle the busywork of chivvying claims along for you.

(And believe me, when you've had a bin and everything's a bit stressed, having someone friendly working for you to progress your insurance claim is priceless. I've seen claims happen through Kiwibike and JBI, and I've dealt with a claim made direct to Swann - the difference in service was noticeable. Brokers earn their keep.)

I'm used to dealing with angry people.

Hardly surprising, if your online attitude is representative of the way you treat your customers.

[Usarka]

Who gives a flying fuck, so long as premiums are reasonable and claims are settled fairly and promptly?

not sure if that was rhetorical, but if it was directed at me, i don't give a fuck but i am interested. just as i'm interested in who owns the banks that i use, or who to a lesser extent distributes the suzuki, ducati, yamaha, or god forbid honda that i ride.

and in case my post was taken as a dig at JB, i do have to say that three of my friends have made claims with them were very happy with the process & outcome.

i guess when some one asks how good a company is that you have to expect someone to post a negative.

[jrandom]

Attitude?

Yes. You're a curmudgeon. It says so under your username.

Show me something I've said here that's untrue.

Well:

the "Broker" in the thread title actually owns Star Insurance

I thought you were making that shit up, but I stand corrected; according to www.companies.govt.nz:

1. John Baker is the sole director of both John Baker Insurance Brokers Limited and Star Underwriting Agents Limited.

2. John Baker and Janice Baker, plus an opaque solicitor's trustee company, hold all shares in both Star Underwriting Agents Limited and John Baker Insurance Brokers Limited.

'Not affiliated'?



You're quite right, Oscar; they might as well be one and the same bloody company!

The owner of John Baker Insurance does not own Star Insurance.

Woopsy. jetboy told a porkie.

[Hailwood]

I have my bike insured with John Baker Insurance following dealing with Tim.....in fact I know also have a significant amount of other insurance with him as well.

All dealings have been nothing but first rate and it appears from the comments here that there is generally no issue with claims. I personally dont care if John Baker owns Star, if Mrs Baker owns a bloody Starlet..i couldnt give a toss as long as my insurance matters are handled in a professional manner.

This BS with Oscar has been going on for a long time now and is very boring......Oscar..let it go... just accept that Tim is doing a good job and that he has made a lot of clients happy here...

You say you work in insurance...from the way you post here and the way you deal with people I can only assume that you wont be for much longer.....FFS just let it go.......................

[jetboy]

Woopsy. jetboy told a porkie.

I have not said anything that is false or untrue at all.

John Baker Insurance is 100% Owned by AON - the largest insurance broker in the world. Check here for more information on Aon, and confirmation backing up my comments as to who owns us.

Let it rest now guys. I have provided my personal contact details in this thread, so please do contact me to discuss this further.

[jrandom]

John Baker Insurance is 100% Owned by AON - the largest insurance broker in the world.

That can't possibly be the case if John and Janice Baker personally own shares in the company.

[quackquack]

So if I start a company and then sell the Trading arm but don't sell the limited liability shell do I own said business. I think this is the biggest amateur hour I have ever seen.
I might start an insurance company if you clowns are industry professional might allow me more time to post on KB

Also from your link I see Aon sponsor rowing how bout some dollars for my little ducklings race team I'm starting

[gunnyrob]

Chrissake, I'm happy with John Baker & will be renewing my policy tomorrow. Stand by for a phone call Tim. PS, is it true you give a $50 rebate for doing a formal rider training course such as Ride right ride safe?

[flame]

Ive had 3 bikes covered by John Baker insurance. Great rates and they are no hassles. Ive not yet had to ever make a claim, but have only heard good things from those that have.
About to re-insure another wee beastie with them this week. They are also one of the few that will cover third party/fire/theft for values less than 15k (or something like that) so thats super wicked with me

[bully]

you will find they go thru, star insurance as a lot of brokers do,.
he gave me a quote and i intend to take it up,
star isnt the cheapest, but will hopfully be the best in the long run.

update.
when getting quoted for insurance, i thort id ask if i was over the speed limit a bit eg 120kph in a 100kph zone and the worst happened would i be covered?
it was a curly question nobody wanted to answer i rang star and asked them aswell, basically they said if it was proven that i was over 100 no they wouldnt pay out.
and thats fine,

saturday just gone i phoned to say yes id like to start the insurance, i got a call today saying no we wont insure you because of the question you asked makes me a high risk, because of the question they also asumed i would be wheelstanding down the motorway, which i cant do and never even mentioned.
any how now im too higher risk...go figure.

in previous conversations they also said a lot of bikes now will show the speed of impact on a damaged speedo, so, becarefull, you might not get paid out.