Mental health or just sick?

[Riff Raff]

I'm a member of that forum and was devastated when I read about her losing her twins, as was everyone else. I bawled my eyes out and worried about my unborn baby. When the truth came out I was absolutely horrified that someone could make up a story like that. As more info came to hand I realised that this young woman needed serious help. From what I can gather she had been pregnant but had lost the twins early on, but had pretended that she was still pregnant so that the relationship with the father would continue. She kept the farce up right to the end when she went into 'labour' and her partner took her to hospital, whereupon hospital staff discovered there were no babies.
I really hope she gets the help she desperately needs.

[Tank]

Nah - this is for real. Verified by a local - not just internet BS.

Yeah - have you ever noticed that almost every urban myth happened locally ....

Anyway true or not - the girl either needs help or a good slap around the ears.

The right answer depends on the FULL and accurate circumstances and the girls reasons behind it.

Some people have genuine issues that need help - but also remember that there are a ton of scum out there that will lie beg and steel simply to get money or their own way. And some of the lies can be horrendous.

Not saying that this girl is either - but none of us can give the right answer without knowing the problem.

[Tank]

From what I can gather she had been pregnant but had lost the twins early on, but had pretended that she was still pregnant so that the relationship with the father would continue. She kept the farce up right to the end when she went into 'labour' and her partner took her to hospital, whereupon hospital staff discovered there were no babies.

sorry - this was posted as I was typing my post.

Horrible to say - but if she maliciously lies simply to 'keep the relationship going with the father' - is that really a mental health issue that needs help - or it is 'just' a woman manipulating a situation to get her own way.

Im not saying that losing the baby isnt tragic (it obviously is) - but we still dont know her motivation - ant thats the million dollar question that makes the difference from needing help to needing a clip (note - not condoning smacking women up - just a figure of speech).

Note - this is written as a guy who had a girl say she was preggers simply to try and force a marriage. she wasn't - we didn't - and I kicked her out the day I found out.

[007XX]

I really hope she gets the help she desperately needs.

I'm glad I read your post before posting my reply

Reason: I was going to get really peeved at people for judging this person based on Deano's thread starting post, which was really lacking on details and therefor was quite misleading.

My point: Who gives us the right to judge this woman to start with? and secondly: without knowing all the full details, how can anyone make an educated opinion on the matter?

C'mon folks...I have met pretty much all of you who have posted on here, and I know for a fact you are all good people. But a few of you come out with some really harsh judgements on the woman in question.

I know fuck all...but I know that I went through enough baby related issues to know not to judge that woman.

And before I get flamed out for my point of view: yes, I know I am no one, and yes, I know you will all think whatever the bloody hell you like regardless of what I say.

But know this: until we have each walked a mile in this woman's shoes, there is no bloody way we are entitled to pass judgement on what she did or said. I would be very enclined to think that there is some deeply seated mental issues at play here, especially if she managed to emulate the symptoms of a pregnancy with twins...the mind is an amazing thing, even when it is not working properly. In this case, I do think that compassion is definitely on order: that woman has problems, and as with any mental related illnesses, outsiders input will play a huge part in the success or failure for recovery.

Anyway, rant over...everyone's entitled an opinion and all that...love ya all.

[Number One]

Compassion is something that is seriously lacking in this world.

Everyone is too quick to dismiss others and as an intolerant bitch I don't profess to be much better but when I have someones heart in my hands and they are genuinely in need of at least one person who isn't going to jump on the bandwagon with all the judgementals out there I have to say I take that responsibility pretty damn serious.

I don't befriend and spend time on just anyone but those that I do choose can expect me to be in their corner as long as they need me.

THOUGH - Mrs Kendog is absolutely right - people do have to be willing to help themselves and you can't solve their problems for them...but what does a little patience and understanding, while managing your own boundries and not taking things on too much really cost us?

Also - who can really be the judge of whether someone CAN help themselves or not? If we haven't walked in their shoes and heard inside their heads what the fuck do we really know?

I feel really sad for that woman. I also feel sad for all those that were hurt and saddened by the lies, it is hard when you identify so clearly (as you do when you are pregnant) with others in the same boat - turn from compassion and empathy straight to contempt just because her actions make no sense to us is a bit cold me thinks. Because clearly she has some very big issues and while you can't expect to solve others problems for them we are all human, we all make mistakes and we all have to share this world with each other....where does selfish judgement get us in the long run? Dog eat dog world - hell yeah...and we complain about that regularly...start with the man in the mirror I say.

AND yes I am still a judgemental bitch, I don't like everyone or even care much for every human being but I don't set out to hurt people and I don't presume to KNOW the right or wrong answer....I just don't expend energy on people that I can't be arsed with....I try not be a hypocrite in that sense.

[Deano]

Reason: I was going to get really peeved at people for judging this person based on Deano's thread starting post, which was really lacking on details and therefor was quite misleading.
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For the record - It wasn't my intention to mislead anyone.

Just sharing a shocking story and reminding people not to believe everything they read on forums...not that most people probably need reminding.

[Edbear]

thats what friends are for. Mind you, I got angrily reprimanded by some random 9 y/o boy off the street once, and it hit me like a tonne of bricks. Yes, a metric tonne!

DB

It's always those extra couple hundy kilo's that hurt the most, eh?

[White trash]

sometimes it really is your (or my) problem and sometimes it aint.

If you take on life like you owe it something, it will likely drown you. The bottom line is, the world will continue to function quite happily without your constant attention or your high ethical standards, so you need not feel so overwhelmed and committed to helping someone who can't help themselves, because they probably can.

Thanks for the life advice, really appreciate it.

I'm not trying to change the world or hold exceptionally high ethics. Personally, if I can make someone elses life a little better by simply reserving judgement, or giving them a bit of a break, surely I'm going to do it? Wouldn't everybody?

[007XX]

My wife is a member of another forum, which has to do with babies and birth.

A member alleged to have been pregnant with twins. Gave all the signs and symptoms of pregnancy, up until a 'miscarriage'.......


Turns out there was no pregnancy at all.....boyfriend and family were devastated at the news of losing twins, then to find out there were actually no twins at all !!

How sick are some people, that they feel the need to lie about some thing so precious ?

Tis a sad world at times.

Don't believe everything you read, especially on the internet.

For the record - It wasn't my intention to mislead anyone and I didn't cast judgement on her either.

Just sharing a shocking story and reminding people not to believe everything they read on forums...not that most people probably need reminding.

I know you're a good guy Deano and I agree with your intent on warning people about the veracity of what they read on the Net.

But your first post indeed came out as judgemental to me and I highlighted the area which gave me this impression. However, if I misunderstood you, then I apologise.

This subject hits very close to home for me, and so I am trying to hang on to shreds of diplomacy.

[James Deuce]

Chicks!

Whaddya gonna do?

Can't live with 'em.

Pass the beer nuts.

[avgas]

Wow, amazing.
Don't believe everything on the internet you say.
FFS
I'm sorry but i don't follow anyones reasoning here. Shit happened, people were disappointed. NO ONE DIED.
Sad fact of the matter is people lie, and sometimes people don't say anything at all. Unless you are personally affected by it - it might be a case of but the fuck out of others lives. You talking shit on the internet helps them in no way at all.
FFS - this feels like womens weekly everyday now.
Help those you care about, enjoy your own life. But talking shit about others will only drag YOU down.

[Deano]

Wow, amazing.
Don't believe everything on the internet you say.
FFS
I'm sorry but i don't follow anyones reasoning here. Shit happened, people were disappointed. NO ONE DIED.
Sad fact of the matter is people lie, and sometimes people don't say anything at all. Unless you are personally affected by it - it might be a case of but the fuck out of others lives. You talking shit on the internet helps them in no way at all.
FFS - this feels like womens weekly everyday now.
Help those you care about, enjoy your own life. But talking shit about others will only drag YOU down.

Thanks for your insightful comments. Not.

For your information, my wife and many others were affected. Devastated even.

[Deano]

Feel free to delete this thread mods.

[Str8 Jacket]

Feel free to delete this thread mods.

Nah, dont. Its exactly the small minded replies that highlights some of the issues surrounding people with these *sort* of problems. It also highlights how peoples lies or even their problems can affect sooo many people without even realising it!

[Number One]

Nah, dont. Its exactly the small minded replies that highlights some of the issues surrounding people with these *sort* of problems. It also highlights how peoples lies or even their problems can affect sooo many people without even realising it!

Perzachery!!!

Know someone before you judge them and all that.

Oh and of course generally speaking...try not to just be an arsehole cos it makes you feel a little better about yerself.