Don't wear fur!

**peasea** · 19th May 2008, 17:40

Originally Posted by Marmoot

Wait, they do this to animals and you want to do this to humans?
How does that make you better if you descend to the same level?

Humans? Nah, they're Chinese.

**Forest** · 19th May 2008, 18:37

What annoys me about videos like this is that they imply that all fur is harvested in these ways.

This is simply not true. Of course some animals will suffer terribly at the hands of numbskulls, but most animals are killed quickly and humanely.

I have no respect for PETA. They are out of step with reality.

**Coyote** · 19th May 2008, 19:04

Could only get half way. Poor Coyote's

No matter what culture you come from, you can't possibly think it's fine to leave a bone exposed on an animal

**Mikkel** · 19th May 2008, 19:08

Originally Posted by Coyote

Could only get half way. Poor Coyote's

No matter what culture you come from, you can't possibly think it's fine to leave a bone exposed on an animal

I do enjoy the occasional leg of lamb...

**jrandom** · 19th May 2008, 19:24

Here's an interesting website from a researcher into humane slaughter.

Better, I think, to advocate and propagate scientifically humane animal handling methods than to try and turn everyone into vegans with PETA-style shock tactics.

**Manxman** · 19th May 2008, 19:58

Originally Posted by Tank

Not all people silly - Just those who vote labour.

p/t

Like your style, but why the "p/t". No need...

**Zoolander** · 19th May 2008, 20:23

Originally Posted by Forest

but most animals are killed quickly and humanely.

cough cough BULLSHIT cough...... how did you come by this knowledge then? Work for the fur trade do ya? Most animals used for fur are NOT killed quickly and humanly. Sounds like you need to get in touch with reality before you post inaccurate rubbish like that.

**Forest** · 19th May 2008, 21:29

Originally Posted by Zoolander

cough cough BULLSHIT cough...... how did you come by this knowledge then? Work for the fur trade do ya? Most animals used for fur are NOT killed quickly and humanly. Sounds like you need to get in touch with reality before you post inaccurate rubbish like that.

My aunt is a buyer for a major UK based fashion retailer.

The UK is particularly concerned with animal welfare, and the farmers who supply her manufacturing partners with fur are all accredited and regularly inspected.

**avgas** · 19th May 2008, 22:38

Originally Posted by Planna

As a result I always think twice about buying anything made in China.

Your right!
by the way, don't buy any of the NZ made stuff either - i hear the mongrel mob has rapists in it.

**SDU** · 20th May 2008, 15:39

Originally Posted by Colapop

Not condoning the treatment of these animals but how far do you go? Beef, lamb, wool, fish... where do you draw the line? We farm animals for slaughter and berate others that do the same because their culture is different to ours. Go to a freezing works and see where your lovely little prepack sausages come from. As I said the treatment of those animals is disgusting but there are huge differences between their way of life (the people) and ours. If you are not taught any different and don't know any different how can you be berated for it?

Luckily in NZ we have minimum standards for the treatment of stock from farming to slaughter. The treatment of slaughterhouse animals here in nz is better than in a lot off countries and there is still room for improvement. Some off the humane treatment stems from wanting to keep the meat tender. ie:The higher the stress levels (especially in pigs) the tougher the meat.

The minimum standards are low but in a lot off cases farmers do treat their stock better than the govt. standards but there are some idiots out there & also 2 animals in particular where their treatment is way behind the ball for even world standards. Pigs & chickens. pigeries & battery hens. Not all are farmed as intensive as the min standards but it is still acceptance as the norm by many.