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    Quote Originally Posted by enigma51 View Post
    You guys seem to forget what a great job working for families are doing and we cant have cuts on that cause how are people suppose to survive then you are all selfish the labour gov has done a great job for the last 9 year
    As far as I am concerned working for families should be named "free advertisements for labour". People on low incomes get taxed unfairly in my opinion and then the money is plowed back into "working for families", so people feel like they owe auntie Helen something and should kiss her on the bum.

    Well, in all fairness the lowest incomes should simply be tax free and people should not have to be on this kind of benefit.

    Helen is not doing people any favors by taking money out of their pockets and then kindly giving some of it back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maki View Post
    Am I alone in this or do other people think M Cullen is sounding like a tired old broken record. "If we give you tax cuts it's just going to mean cutting down government services".
    Too much is spent on Gubmint 'Services' as it is - we have way too many bureaucrats, and not enough people actually doing productive work.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chubby View Post
    Cullen comes across, in my opinion, as a smug, condescending twat.
    Of course.
    He's paid shitloads of money, is guaranteed a fat pension if/when he gets booted out or retires, plus perks such as free lifetime first-class air travel.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Tax cuts -- where does the money come from?

    I find it amusing that people expect taxes to be cut every year. On the other hand, we expect the government to do more for us. Where does it end? With no tax? How do we pay for roads? New Harbour Bridge? Hospitals? ACC? Schools?

    This is a comment on any political party, not just Labour. No matter who is in power, you can't keep cutting taxes and maintain the same level of public services (or even expect more) -- money doesn't come from thin air. I bet Mr Reserve Bank is shitting himself every time the election year rolls around; more strain (resulting in higher interest rates) from politicians yet again over-promising on tax cuts. Happens in every country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vifferman View Post
    Of course.
    He's paid shitloads of money, is guaranteed a fat pension if/when he gets booted out or retires, plus perks such as free lifetime first-class air travel.
    Who's gunna do that...he's a list MP.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maki View Post
    Helen is not doing people any favors by taking money out of their pockets and then kindly giving some of it back.
    Of course she is...see below.
    Quote Originally Posted by vifferman View Post
    Too much is spent on Gubmint 'Services' as it is - we have way too many bureaucrats, and not enough people actually doing productive work.
    Unemployed waiting line?
    We can only hope....
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Don't worry about Dr Cullen and his budget. If you earn more than $30,000 a year, you're not going to "get" anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxesdaphat View Post
    you can't keep cutting taxes and maintain the same level of public services (or even expect more)
    So how about we cut Taxes AND Bureaucracy - thats got to be good

    This country is already drowning in red tape

    And while we're at it - lets axe all those perks for ex-MP's
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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxesdaphat View Post
    Tax cuts -- where does the money come from?

    I find it amusing that people expect taxes to be cut every year. On the other hand, we expect the government to do more for us. Where does it end? With no tax? How do we pay for roads? New Harbour Bridge? Hospitals? ACC? Schools?

    This is a comment on any political party, not just Labour. No matter who is in power, you can't keep cutting taxes and maintain the same level of public services (or even expect more) -- money doesn't come from thin air. I bet Mr Reserve Bank is shitting himself every time the election year rolls around; more strain (resulting in higher interest rates) from politicians yet again over-promising on tax cuts. Happens in every country.
    You can't "keep cutting taxes"? When did they last cut taxes?

    The governement does not do anything for you. You do it for yourself by paying for it with your tax money. All the government does is move YOUR money from one place to another and stick some of it in their back pocket (fat pension, high salary, buying votes, etc.)

    Rewarding people for being productive creates jobs and makes funds available to pay for essential services like health, roads and education. Punishing people for productivity creates poverty and an exodus to Australia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxesdaphat View Post
    Tax cuts -- where does the money come from?

    I find it amusing that people expect taxes to be cut every year. On the other hand, we expect the government to do more for us. Where does it end? With no tax? How do we pay for roads? New Harbour Bridge? Hospitals? ACC? Schools?

    This is a comment on any political party, not just Labour. No matter who is in power, you can't keep cutting taxes and maintain the same level of public services (or even expect more) -- money doesn't come from thin air. I bet Mr Reserve Bank is shitting himself every time the election year rolls around; more strain (resulting in higher interest rates) from politicians yet again over-promising on tax cuts. Happens in every country.
    Perhaps tax cuts are what would retain the emigrating working class New Zealanders. The taxes lost from these working New Zealanders alone would pay a substantial amount towards tax cuts whilst at the same time promoting businesses within New Zealand rather than the current situation we have - High Taxes, Promoting Emigration and Business closure/departure.

    I mean - Just look at the new law of 4 weeks annual leave - That shit just kills small/struggling businesses.

    By God - This shit is so Obvious! How can people ask such questions and not be taking the piss???

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    Quote Originally Posted by enigma51 View Post
    You guys seem to forget what a great job working for families are doing and we cant have cuts on that cause how are people suppose to survive then you are all selfish the labour gov has done a great job for the last 9 year
    What the Fark? Are you just plain farken stupid?

    In Australia they have the equivalent to "working for families".
    Australia also have tax cuts and Lower Interest Rates.
    Australia also Gift you $7,000 towards buying your own home.
    Australia gifts you upto $15,000 if you decide to build your own home.
    You receive $1500 when you have a child.
    You'll receive hospital treatment for cancer.
    You'll receive a half decent retirement package. Blah blah blah blah..... It goes on and on.

    Our system is hardly farken decent!!! Whoopdie shit we have working for families. I have a child now and I get Zero! I actually want to work a second job but the government will tax me at %40 so whats the farken point? It makes sense to sit on ones arse with this government.

    In the last 9 years
    Labour has managed to drop the NZ OECD ranking by nearly 30 places.
    Labour has filled this country will non-working immigrants and refugees.
    Labour has driven industry off-shore.
    Labour is causing business collapses in NZ at an alarming rate.
    Labour is driving record numbers of working class off shore .
    Labour has legalised Prostitution/Brothels - Promoting it.
    Labour has funded multiple sex themed events.
    Labour has given your young teens disclosure to deal with sex issues.
    Labour is dictating the upbringing of your children
    Labour has removed a competitive environment from the classroom.
    Get the picture????? Loser Farken Policies.
    Labours leader has forged documentation
    Labour is (Currently) receiving huge amounts of undecleared trade union funding.
    Labour blatantly ignores the Public Opinion. %88 against Smacking Bill.
    Labour lies outright to the public. Tolls purchase pricing.
    Labour breaks promises - Tax cuts.
    Labour has killed the overseas appeal of the education system.
    Labour has resulted in the drain of New Zealand Senior Doctors.
    Police aren't funded properly and crime is through the roof.
    FFS - The list goes on and on....... Get my point.

    This Govt has done a SHIT job over the last 9 years and the job losses, emigration statistics, business closures and fall in the OECD position is all evidence of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxesdaphat View Post
    No matter who is in power, you can't keep cutting taxes and maintain the same level of public services (or even expect more) -- money doesn't come from thin air.
    The point is that these arseholes (and I am nailing my flag to the wall there) HAVE NEVER CUT TAXES IN THE YEARS THEY'VE BEEN IN OFFICE. In a period of relative prosperity, with wages rising, the bracket creep alone should be paying some Pakistani doctor to follow us around "just in case". What we have is a minority government pandering to its underclass supporters by giving them lollies in election year.

    Why I, or anyone else, would be self employed escapes me most days: all I am is a form filler for Uncle Helen, and don't forget when the bitch gave the employees an extra weeks holiday it was an IMMEDIATE cost to a business of 6% drop in productivity. Then the fuckers have the gall to moan that "We are the least productive country in the OECD" or some shit. All you employees in Kiwisaver: guess what, that costs me money too.

    Oh and dont forget the incentives to breed: Fucking tax credits.

    Being white, male, middle class and self employed in this country: Im an oppressed minority!.

    Fuck all a yis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dafe View Post
    What the Fark? Are you just plain farken stupid?Our system is hardly farken decent!!!

    In the last 9 years
    Labour has managed to drop the NZ OECD ranking by nearly 30 places.
    Labour has filled this country will non-working immigrants and refugees.
    Labour has driven industry off-shore.
    Labour is causing business collapses in NZ at an alarming rate.
    Labour is driving record numbers of working class off shore .
    Labour has legalised Prostitution/Brothels - Promoting it.
    Labour has funded multiple sex themed events.
    Labour has given your young teens disclosure to deal with sex issues.
    Labour is dictating the upbringing of your children
    Labour has removed a competitive environment from the classroom.
    Get the picture????? Loser Farken Policies.
    Labours leader has forged documentation
    Labour is (Currently) receiving huge amounts of undecleared trade union funding.
    Labour blatantly ignores the Public Opinion. %88 against Smacking Bill.
    Labour lies outright to the public. Tolls purchase pricing.
    Labour breaks promises - Tax cuts.
    Labour has killed the overseas appeal of the education system.
    Labour has resulted in the drain of New Zealand Senior Doctors.
    FFS - The list goes on and on....... Get my point.

    This Govt has done a SHIT job over the last 9 years and the job losses, emigration statistics, business closures and fall in the OECD position is all evidence of that.
    ... what're you hinting at?
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    Quote Originally Posted by enigma51 View Post
    You guys seem to forget what a great job working for families are doing and we cant have cuts on that cause how are people suppose to survive then you are all selfish the labour gov has done a great job for the last 9 year

    You insane crackhead! Go and have a vasectomy immediately.

    If you are female, go have a tubal ligation, or emigrate to a pacific island: Australia say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dafe View Post
    In the last 9 years
    Labour has managed to drop the NZ OECD ranking by nearly 30 places.
    Labour has filled this country will non-working immigrants and refugees.
    Labour has driven industry off-shore.
    Labour is causing business collapses in NZ at an alarming rate.
    Labour is driving record numbers of working class off shore .
    Labour has legalised Prostitution/Brothels - Promoting it.
    Labour has funded multiple sex themed events.
    Labour has given your young teens disclosure to deal with sex issues.
    Labour is dictating the upbringing of your children
    Labour has removed a competitive environment from the classroom.
    Get the picture????? Loser Farken Policies.
    Labours leader has forged documentation
    Labour is (Currently) receiving huge amounts of undecleared trade union funding.
    Labour blatantly ignores the Public Opinion. %88 against Smacking Bill.
    Labour lies outright to the public. Tolls purchase pricing.
    Labour breaks promises - Tax cuts.
    Labour has killed the overseas appeal of the education system.
    Labour has resulted in the drain of New Zealand Senior Doctors.
    FFS - The list goes on and on....... Get my point.

    This Govt has done a SHIT job over the last 9 years and the job losses, emigration statistics, business closures and fall in the OECD position is all evidence of that.
    I dont care about any of the sexual politics stuff, what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes is no-ones business.

    As long as you dont do it in the High Street and frighten the horses, thats OK.

    To a certain extent I dont even care about the no smacking thing. I think it was appallingly handled though.

    What really pisses me off is the promotion and creation of the underclass because they all vote labour.

    By the way, I hate John Key as well.
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