Sick and tired of Cullen

[forkoil]

Hilarious!

Those right wing ass kissers the IMF said today that tax cuts would be a disaster unless other services were cut to compensate.

That is the unanswered question from National: How the fuck are you gonna pay for tax cuts? Which social services will lose out; education, health, law and order, aid to the poor?

Watch that space; National is asking us to go down the same failed track the Yanks went down. Trickle down was a failure and tax cuts made the rich richer and the poor poorer.

And how do you think we as a country are performing under the Labour Govt, well?

[Robert Taylor]

Hilarious!

Those right wing ass kissers the IMF said today that tax cuts would be a disaster unless other services were cut to compensate.

That is the unanswered question from National: How the fuck are you gonna pay for tax cuts? Which social services will lose out; education, health, law and order, aid to the poor?

Watch that space; National is asking us to go down the same failed track the Yanks went down. Trickle down was a failure and tax cuts made the rich richer and the poor poorer.

Theres no excuse for your persistently bad manners and lack of imagination in constantly using expletives.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Theres no excuse for your persistently bad manners and lack of imagination in constantly using expletives.

I LOVE using expletives. REally!

and I have a very active imagination. Why just now I am imagining Jessica Alba, Sarah Michelle Gellar, me, a hot tub and a couple of bottles of champagne.

Fuck yeah!!!

[peasea]

Hilarious!

Those right wing ass kissers the IMF said today that tax cuts would be a disaster unless other services were cut to compensate.

That is the unanswered question from National: How the fuck are you gonna pay for tax cuts? Which social services will lose out; education, health, law and order, aid to the poor?

Watch that space; National is asking us to go down the same failed track the Yanks went down. Trickle down was a failure and tax cuts made the rich richer and the poor poorer.

Hang on man, I usually agree with most of what you post but I have to say there are way too many bludgers sucking on the teat here. We, as a nation, can afford tax cuts by cutting out the bludgers. Take a hard line and get the slackers out of bed in the morning. Some will say "where are the jobs?" but there are people sitting not too far from this keyboard who have average jobs/incomes and don't mind getting up in the morning to go do them. Jobs are out there, check the papers. In fact, I say work for the dole!

[Manxman]

The ugly truth as I see it... with very few exceptions being in Parliament is not some higher calling, some noble stand enabling those voted in to make a lasting mark in the annals of New Zealand history.

For most it's a job. A job with defined lined of responsibility, a boss from whom you must take orders, and you need to compete for business (aka votes).

You do what you can to get the business (votes) from the competition (opposition). If you come across as a smug twat then so be it - the #1 rule is KEEP YOUR JOB. Check out Winnie the poo at the last election. Beaten in his own electorate but got in as a list MP.

If that means pissing off a lot of people from time to time then they do it, so long as the ones that get them back into power on the nominated date are willing to do so. So what does that mean for a Labour Govt?

Bribe the poor. Throw them a few baubles, set their expectations low, right up until the critical date then give them $20/week. For 5/8ths of fuck all they just bought a lot of votes and - most importantly to them - kept their jobs!

Know your enemy... they're a pack of powerful, intelligent, self serving people that club together and busily scratch each others backs first... and THEN think about the country as a whole.

Don't think they're always at each others throats either... just take a quick look at how parliamentary pay rises get pushed through under urgency.

These are very astute observations, and I'd agree that this is how it works.

I recall Michael Cullen saying way back in his first term that: "The first goal of any government, is to ensure that it is re-elected.". Nuff said...

[idleidolidyll]

Theres no excuse for your persistently bad manners and lack of imagination in constantly using expletives.

there's no need for your borish ignorant attitude either but we have to put up with it

[idleidolidyll]

Hang on man, I usually agree with most of what you post but I have to say there are way too many bludgers sucking on the teat here. We, as a nation, can afford tax cuts by cutting out the bludgers. Take a hard line and get the slackers out of bed in the morning. Some will say "where are the jobs?" but there are people sitting not too far from this keyboard who have average jobs/incomes and don't mind getting up in the morning to go do them. Jobs are out there, check the papers. In fact, I say work for the dole!

why pounce on one aspect and think it's gonna make enough difference to pay for the massive tax cuts National is planning?

I also support work for the dole but in past suggested schemes, capitalists have complained that they could make money from the 'jobs' assigned and they shouldn't be done 'for free' through the government.

Besides, the ranks of people on the dole have plummeted in the last 5 years and that is just not enough to pay for the sizes of tax cut National is buying votes with. The only way they'll actually afford them is to cut other services or sell the crown jewels......again.

Again, tax cuts were what the conservative fascist wankers in yankland promised to cure their economy etc. Instead wealth gaps have grown and more people are disadvantaged.

You should all be asking National EXACTLY how they are going to pay for tax cuts; what other services will have funds taken away.

Trouble is too many people are gushing over the promise of $50 a week and not thinking where its gonna come from.

small minds are easy to fool; distract them with short term visible gain and fuck them from behind where they're not paying attention: it's the National way

[idleidolidyll]

And how do you think we as a country are performing under the Labour Govt, well?

If you've been paying attention you'd have seen me say many times that i don't vote Labour.

However, under Labour the economy has grown and the dole queue has shrunk. Could do better for sure but I've lived under antionals lies before. I know they're even worse.

Now please, don't try to blame the global issues on Labour: increasing fuel prices, increasing food prices, the finance collapses etc. Most or all of those are completely out of the hands of ANY NZ government.

Here's my prediction under National: Short term euphoria followed by long term mistrust, mismanagement, dropping wages as they sell us out to the lowest bidders, loss of assets to foreign companies and increasing racial problems. It's taken more than 15 years to drag NZ halfway out of the ECA abuses they perpetrated on us and it'll take just 3 years for them to fuck us completely over again.

[scott411]

there's no need for your borish ignorant attitude either but we have to put up with it

pot calling the kettle black isn't it

[scott411]

.

Besides, the ranks of people on the dole have plummeted in the last 5 years .

yet the sickness benefit has gone though the roof,

i do not think that national is the answer either, but i think the country is worse off than when labour took over 9 years ago, not so much financially but definatly socially,

[idleidolidyll]

yet the sickness benefit has gone though the roof,

i do not think that national is the answer either, but i think the country is worse off than when labour took over 9 years ago, not so much financially but definatly socially,

interesting

nationals legacy is to fuck over society in favour of the economy

if labour is already doing that, why vote for the party that's even worse at it?

please, be a bit more specific; exactly how is labour fucking up society?

[idleidolidyll]

pot calling the kettle black isn't it

no, the socialist calling the fascist out actually

[Manxman]

but we have to put up with it

Wrong. You have to put up with it.

The rest of us agree with him...

[scott411]

exactly how is labour fucking up society?

your words not mine, Labour is not the root of all evil, most of our problems date back a lot longer than this goverment,


so are you saying that we are in a better place than 9 years ago?

[peasea]

why pounce on one aspect and think it's gonna make enough difference to pay for the massive tax cuts National is planning?

I also support work for the dole but in past suggested schemes, capitalists have complained that they could make money from the 'jobs' assigned and they shouldn't be done 'for free' through the government.

Besides, the ranks of people on the dole have plummeted in the last 5 years and that is just not enough to pay for the sizes of tax cut National is buying votes with. The only way they'll actually afford them is to cut other services or sell the crown jewels......again.

Again, tax cuts were what the conservative fascist wankers in yankland promised to cure their economy etc. Instead wealth gaps have grown and more people are disadvantaged.

You should all be asking National EXACTLY how they are going to pay for tax cuts; what other services will have funds taken away.

Trouble is too many people are gushing over the promise of $50 a week and not thinking where its gonna come from.

small minds are easy to fool; distract them with short term visible gain and fuck them from behind where they're not paying attention: it's the National way

Settle. Forget the figure of $50, just say 'tax cut', whatever we can afford. Maybe people are gushing over the $50p/w promise; on the face of it I would, but you're right in saying it has to come from somewhere. If it ain't done by cutting dole bludgers let's have a look at the growing numbers of sickness bennies....I doubt they're all genuine. Sorry mate, I'm a staunch believer in the 'get off your arse' philosophy. Having said that, I also think that a hand-up is way better than a hand-out; I've hit hard days and been grateful for some support, but it didn't last, I have too much pride to be a bludger and I also respect my fellow kiwis for supporting me in my time of need. I'm currently returning the favour by working hard.

However, I don't earn shitloads, just enough to appreciate what I have, pay my bills and sip a bourbon in the evening. If life is tough, I stop drinking, park the V8 and put my speeding tickets on the drip. I get bloody angry when I see people on benefits drinking piss and smoking ciggies, moaning about how hard life is. It has to stop.

Providing the basics for the down-trodden is fine, luxuries are out unless you earn 'em!