Cheep Shoei and Arai sales on trade me

[Owl]

Direct breach of trademe, doesn't have the product he's selling in stock. Interested in collecting the cash only, not providing a service!

Right again Klown73! Sometimes we learn the hard way, although he never listed term & conditions when I bought mine.

[rc_36_rider]

It would appear the decision is unanimous, It is not worth the risk to maby save a couple of bucks and when you go into the shop you can look and touch and choose the right product for your needs. You even get warrenty and parts back up too.

[Marmoot]

And this thread's point is?

There is a big Caveat Emptor written all over the face of online auction sites.
You'd be stupid not to acknowledge this, and any buyers on TradeMe should think not once not twice but three times before commiting that Buy Now or Bid button. Unless they are brainless.

[Klown73]

Yeah, but it's worth keeping in mind there's loads of ethical people on Trade Me selling decent product in an ethical manner.

It's not the method of sale in question, it's the ethics of the seller.

[rc_36_rider]

The point was for everyone to help me to decide weather or not it was worth getting a helmet off this guy or gall and my opinion was very quickly swayed to the fact this guy is just using our money to make him money he is not providing a service and not offering a better deal then the shops when the above is considered.

[Owl]

And this thread's point is?

There is a big Caveat Emptor written all over the face of online auction sites.
You'd be stupid not to acknowledge this, and any buyers on TradeMe should think not once not twice but three times before commiting that Buy Now or Bid button. Unless they are brainless.

What a brainless post!

[Sensei]

Support Local ? Did this for the first time I brought something from March1 Yamaha here in New Plymouth a $900 Arai Chaser helmet & $200 Gold lens . Less than 2 months after one of the side plates broke a tab off it some how ? so phoned shop to get them to replace it under Warranty & got " you have broken it !" & there is no warrany on that helmet ?????? as I looked at the Manual book with 5y Warranty on this helmet I said I'd bring it in to get it fixed & there was a warranty on it . Owner argued that I had broken it so got pissed off & said I would call the Importer which was Dolds in Hamilton & talked to a guy called Brendon , vented my point about one of their Arai dealers attitude etc , No worrys he said & a brand new set of free side plates turned up the next mornning .Now thats Service !!! All I can say about March1 Yamaha is Fuck you !! & have told every one else I know to do the same !

[vagrant]

Have Shoei sizes changed over the years?
My RF-700 is size small, and fitted really well when I got it many moons ago. It still fits ok, but the liner is well past it.
I tried a small XR-1000 on at Motomail, well tried to try it on, it was way too tight. I then tried an X-Spirit medium, too big, and then an XR-1000 medium. It fitted but not as well as my beat up RF-700.
Is there much of a difference between the X-spirit and the XR-1000 as far as sizing goes?

(FWIW I've never had a helmet sales person, either Arai or Shoei, measure my head for sizing. It's always been, stick this on and see how it feels. Maybe they were sick the day the training video was shown)

[AllanB]

Well apart from FFM which I understand is still made in NZ ALL HELMETS ARE IMPORTS

Looks like he is only $100 cheaper than a NZ bike shop. If you want to spend that much on a helmet then spend the extra $100 at your shop for back-up and peace of mind.

Helmets are funny things, Shoei, AVG and a whole lot of name brands do not fit my head. However HJC & Arai do. Unfortunately it will be a long time until I can justify to pay out for a $1000 Arai. But lets not get into that subject...

[FJRider]

BEWARE... Hong Kong is the world HQ of knock-off's. The cheap stuff is SELDOM the genuine article. Old saying, if it seems to good to be true ....

[breakaway]

Support your local bike shop.

Unfortunately some of us don't have a spare $200 lying around.

[AllanB]

BEWARE... Hong Kong is the world HQ of knock-off's. The cheap stuff is SELDOM the genuine article. Old saying, if it seems to good to be true ....

I use a couple of big print companies in HK, with China print plants. Recently I asked one of them to see if they could find a wire working company to make steel display stands for me - I sent over plans, dimensions & photos and he visited a few companies. He came back saying that they all want to make them however they will need a completed one sent to them to COPY.

[N1CK]

It's interesting that people get so obsessive about Arai when they only manufacture a limited range of helmets. I will never wear one.

What brand do you wear/recommend?

[Jono25]

By the replies on trademe this guy/gal seems like a bit of a loose canon. Also a bit cheeky telling you to go in to a bike shop and check the size and then buying off him. What's wrong with going around to his premises to see the product. Sounds a bit dodgy to me.

[Big Dave]

Unfortunately some of us don't have a spare $200 lying around.

If you actually build a relationship with a shop you get that back with interest.

2 hours ago.

'Hi Shane my speedo has stopped working'

'Drop it in and we'll replace the sensor.'

'Cool I have a few calls to do on Monday - can you lend me a bike for a few hours'

'Sure.'

And I get a discount on everything I buy.