Van: Diesel or Petrol?

[dhunt]

With my van seemly on it's last legs (made in 1984). I'm sort of looking at upgrading it sometime in the next few months and wondering what to get. It always use to be that diesel was the way to go as cheaper to fill and more economical but is that still the way to go? It seems diesel is going up more in price than petrol and I assume that it may continue to do so.

Any thoughts? I will still go with a HiAce (preferably LWB). I would probably be looking at low to mid 90's as that's all I would be able to afford. Mostly it would be used to carts bikes to the race track and back so out of town ks.

[FROSTY:Me]

Its a friggin hard decision matey.
Specifically the toyotas and Nissans do seem to have their head right as far as Diesel fuel economy is concerned. Especially in their 2.4 engines.
The problem you are gonna run into is finding a diesel van.
Our wonderfull fucktard gubinment has decided that no diesel vehicles pre 2004 comply with nz emmission laws s- no fresh imports--this has made the price of the stock still in NZ premeum priced

[JimO]

probably petrol, i dont really know at the age your looking at anything is going to be a unknown quantity. I have a 06 deisel hilux and even with rucs i reckon it would be cheaper to run than a petrol one of the same model, deisel is $174 a ltr and rucs are around $170 for 5000ks but i get over 750 ks out of a tank of deisel doubt a petrol one would return that loaded up like mine

[Tony.OK]

Hard to answer that one,i brought a 95 Nissan Homy/Caravan 2l petrol,150kms for $3500,its fairly hard on gas (400ish kms/tank)but the engine is pretty bullet proof(sr20 I think)no cambelt either.
I was looking at diesel,but to get one they're a good chunk dearer than a petrol,reg is dearer,servicing is twice as often and then theres road users.
Now that diesels gone up so much it would take alot longer to recoup the extra outlay.
So if ya like going even slower than a slow thing go for the petrol to keep initial outlay down a bit.

[dhunt]

Its a friggin hard decision matey.
Specifically the toyotas and Nissans do seem to have their head right as far as Diesel fuel economy is concerned. Especially in their 2.4 engines.
The problem you are gonna run into is finding a diesel van.
Our wonderfull fucktard gubinment has decided that no diesel vehicles pre 2004 comply with nz emmission laws s- no fresh imports--this has made the price of the stock still in NZ premeum priced

I wondered why they seem so over priced

Just out of interest are 90's model petrol HiAce's injected or still carbed?

So doing a comparison between a petrol & diesel I get the following.

Diesel Advantages
Better economy (more km/L)
Torquer Engine
Cheaper in the long run???

Petrol Advantages
Cheaper to service (less often)
Cheaper initial cost
Don't have to buy RUC (included in pump charge so makes things a bit simpler)

The question is having a diesel an advantage in the long run? I would much rather speed a bit more money now (within reason) to save money in the long run.

[FROSTY:Me]

Pluck knows mate.
Id say buy a petrol long high mid to late 90's hiace petrol
But really its about what you can find.
If you see anything on tard me selling by tard me login motorhound gimme a yell--Ill do ya a shitload better deal on exactly the same vehicle

[CookMySock]

Get a 3 litre turbo HiAce. These go like a haunted shithouse, handle really well, are cheap to run, and the motor is reliable. A little more money, but with very good reason. Drive one and you will see.

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DB

[wickle]

With my van seemly on it's last legs (made in 1984). I'm sort of looking at upgrading it sometime in the next few months and wondering what to get. It always use to be that diesel was the way to go as cheaper to fill and more economical but is that still the way to go? It seems diesel is going up more in price than petrol and I assume that it may continue to do so.

Any thoughts? I will still go with a HiAce (preferably LWB). I would probably be looking at low to mid 90's as that's all I would be able to afford. Mostly it would be used to carts bikes to the race track and back so out of town ks.

Depends on mileage u are going to or do ( sorry to be PC kilometrage ) when disel was approx half price of petrol thats how alot made up they mind.

[Boob Johnson]

Its a friggin hard decision matey.
Specifically the toyotas and Nissans do seem to have their head right as far as Diesel fuel economy is concerned. Especially in their 2.4 engines.
The problem you are gonna run into is finding a diesel van.
Our wonderfull fucktard gubinment has decided that no diesel vehicles pre 2004 comply with nz emmission laws s- no fresh imports--this has made the price of the stock still in NZ premeum priced

Damn straight, been noticing some MAD prices for diesel vans of late.


ps: STAY AWAY from Mazda & Mitsi diesel's in the late 80's early 90's. They are cheaper for a reason.

[DEATH_INC.]

Diseasel for sure, our old work van is a diesel hi-ace (auto), it's cheap as to run and goes plenty well enough, it'll cruise at 110km on the motorway no worries. No reliability probs either, and it's got plenty of k's on it (not sure of the exact number, but pretty sure it's over 300)

[Trouser]

Electronic speedo/odometer on diesel hiaces of that vintage. Easy to minimise certain charges

[Biggles2000]

How about LPG it is quite reasonable at the moment.

[TimeOut]

Get a 3 litre turbo HiAce. These go like a haunted shithouse, handle really well, are cheap to run, and the motor is reliable. A little more money, but with very good reason. Drive one and you will see.


DB

The Nissan 3.0 turbo is good as well.
The double cab we got now has way more power and is more economical than our toyota 3.0 non turbo

Electronic speedo/odometer on diesel hiaces of that vintage. Easy to minimise certain charges

Just watch the k's (when buying) because of this, a lot have the switch fitted

[JimO]

The Nissan 3.0 turbo is good as well.
The double cab we got now has way more power and is more economical than our toyota 3.0 non turbo

do you think it may have something to do with the turbo.

2.8 = 68kw
3.0 = around 72kw
3.0 turbo 96kw
3.0 d4d commonrail 126 kw

[dino3310]

2.8 non turbo, we were getting 500,000klms + out of them when i was in the forestry.
great donkeys.