Singh family complaining about the police

**Brett** · 11th June 2008, 12:19

Some will dissagree with me here, but I feel that people should have a right to arm themselves for instances such as this. The cops do the best job that they can with the resources they are given and the red tape that they have to climb through. But 25 mins is not exactly fast. A helluva lot can happen in 25 mins.

**Brett** · 11th June 2008, 12:26

Ambos have procedures to follow. Can't blame them that they were not authorised to enter. I just wonder why the police couldn't secure the area any faster?

**enigma51** · 11th June 2008, 16:32

Originally Posted by Brett

Ambos have procedures to follow. Can't blame them that they were not authorised to enter. I just wonder why the police couldn't secure the area any faster?

Even if the cops was there in 1 min the fact still stands that the piece of shit shot and killed someone.
Thats the issue not the late cops!
Why do we tolerate that more than the cops being "late" . Am i the only one seeing a problem with this logic?

Also allowing firearms to defend our self is a good idea in theory but remeber you give the same right to all .......................... criminals included.

**MisterD** · 11th June 2008, 16:38

Originally Posted by Brett

I just wonder why the police couldn't secure the area any faster?

Because they've been so caned in the last few years by the Sisterhood and the PC brigade, that they are now so scared of making the wrong decision, that they make no decisions at all.

**MisterD** · 11th June 2008, 16:45

Originally Posted by Ixion

In this case the delay was caused (as far as I can tell) by the police who refused to enter the area,

As far as I can see they just dithered about...there can only have been two scenarios:
1) Gunman still around. In which case, they knew damn well there were plenty of people in the vicinity of the shop so they should have been in there to protect them.

2) Gunman gone. In which case get in there and try to save the bloke's life...

I don't see any justification for the time spent doing nothing.

Just a question to chuck "out there"...who would rather we now had an old-school hard bastard cop like, say, Clint Rickards running South Aucks?

**tgb_novice** · 11th June 2008, 16:48

Originally Posted by enigma51

Go to india or where ever you from and lets see how quickly the cops get to you and actually give a shit if you get shot or not.

So next time anyone who has any foreign ancestry has to go which ever country that they came from and test that scenario out before moaning and taking an issue with anything in this country!!

This country will sure have a lot less issues to deal with !

And no I am not condoning their actions but if what they say is correct wouldn't it make sense to just see if there is something that can be improved for all the rest of us, if ever we face such a horrible situation ?

**spudchucka** · 11th June 2008, 16:48

Originally Posted by Ixion

Bullet holes ? Well, in this case, tthere was one place that the cops could say with certainty was safe. The shop where the guy was dying. because they were talking to the people there. No gunman there . So the "safe place" could have been the shop!

If the guys willing to murder for a few bottles of grog what's to say he wasn't willing to sit just out of sight and wait for the cops to turn up so he could drop a couple of pigs while he's at it?

Get some actual experience in the behaviours of these "people" before you pass off your possible scenarios as if they were probable facts because history has taught the police worldwide that the perpetrators of offences like this one are highly unpredictable.

**Coldrider** · 11th June 2008, 16:51

They profit from the sale of take away alcohol, and moan when the shit hits their premises instead of the homes where it could be consumed.

**tgb_novice** · 11th June 2008, 16:54

Originally Posted by Coldrider

They profit from the sale of take away alcohol, and moan when the shit hits their premises instead of the homes where it could be consumed.

Would be way better if we let the drug dealers sell them

**HenryDorsetCase** · 11th June 2008, 16:55

Originally Posted by Coldrider

They profit from the sale of take away alcohol, and moan when the shit hits their premises instead of the homes where it could be consumed.

what the fuck?

I mean seriously, what the fuck?

**HenryDorsetCase** · 11th June 2008, 16:56

Originally Posted by spudchucka

If the guys willing to murder for a few bottles of grog what's to say he wasn't willing to sit just out of sight and wait for the cops to turn up so he could drop a couple of pigs while he's at it?

Get some actual experience in the behaviours of these "people" before you pass off your possible scenarios as if they were probable facts because history has taught the police worldwide that the perpetrators of offences like this one are highly unpredictable.

I watch "The Shield" religiously so I am now an expert in gang culture and police procedure. I agree with you.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 11th June 2008, 16:59

Originally Posted by devnull

Forget tasers.... one of these in each car and a .45 on the belt

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Hunt...-159202789.htm

Nah, most of the stuff they need to drop someone is close range. So shotguns and Glocks. two 9mm rounds or one 12g round will ensure compliance.

7 shot pump action pistol grip Remington riot gun.

One in every cop car. I would allow my tax dollars to be spent on that quite happily.