Hand-held cellphones to be banned while driving

[mstriumph]

hand-helds have been banned in West Aus. for some time

- but i always thought it was because the Pollies had shares in the car-kit companies ....?

[Owl]

Here's the second-hand smoke death toll:

http://www.moh.govt.nz/moh.nsf/pagesmh/1470

And some other interesting stuff, which says that "microbes" account for 6.5% of all deaths. Food-borne illnesses resulting in death will be a subset of that:

http://www.moh.govt.nz/moh.nsf/pagesmh/2956?Open

Here's a schedule of food-borne illnesses:

http://www.nzfsa.govt.nz/consumers/f...bugs/index.htm

You don't actually believe that crap do you Hitcher?

[Usarka]

"The estimated number of traffic air pollution related deaths was about twice the number of traffic crash deaths"

http://www.transport.govt.nz/page-111/

You don't actually believe that crap do you Hitcher?

$10 says you are a smoker

- but i always thought it was because the Pollies had shares in the car-kit companies ....?

It certainly may explain why Vodafone and Telecom have been campaigning for this.

[Hitcher]

You don't actually believe that crap do you Hitcher?

You'll have to help me here by defining "crap".

[Banesto John]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_...driving_safety

A 1997 American study and a 2005 Australian study both estimated the risk of a collision when using a cellular telephone was four times higher than the risk when a cellular telephone was not being used. 699 and 456 drivers, respectively, who owned phones, were involved in crashes, and volunteered for the studies were examined. By collecting volunteers' cell phone records, scientists were able to determine who placed telephone calls shortly before the time of crash, and through case-crossover analysis (a technique often used in medical studies of heart-attacks and air pollution) of cell phone habits, calculated the increase in risk. Both studies found that hands-free devices were not considerably safer.

[Mental Trousers]

About farken time too. Unfortunately this doesn't mean making phone calls when driving are totally banned, but it's a start.

[Owl]

You'll have to help me here by defining "crap".

I’ll give you an example. If a baby dies of cot death and one of the parents smoke, then that baby becomes a statistic of second-hand smoke, whether the parent smoked around the baby or not!

[MisterD]

One day we'll all be awesome drivers, then there will be no need for enforcement.

We'll never improve the standard of driving as long as we persist with this "don't think, just follow the rules" thing...

[98tls]

About farken time too. Unfortunately this doesn't mean making phone calls when driving are totally banned, but it's a start.

In some ways we might be worse off as not only will people continue to txt they now have to concentrate on hiding the fact there doing it.

[Mental Trousers]

In some ways we might be worse off as not only will people continue to txt they now have to concentrate on hiding the fact there doing it.

There's always a down side unfortunately mate. You don't gain anything without giving something up. But it's still a start and that's better than nothing.

[Skyryder]

In some ways we might be worse off as not only will people continue to txt they now have to concentrate on hiding the fact there doing it.

All they gota do is to ban driving with one hand. Probably will one day.

Skyryder

[FLYMO]

bout time
the dickheads that use phones while driving are one of the most dangerous hazzards we face as bikers
like to see the cops enforce it though
more crime as a result eh?

[Ocean1]

There's always a down side unfortunately mate. You don't gain anything without giving something up. But it's still a start and that's better than nothing.

True, there's always a down side.

And there's literally no end to the list of behaviours that can be said to be undesirable.

See where we're headed here? How much do we give up?

I for one no longer bother to obey any given rule or law, not only are they numerous and onerous enough to substantially detract from my life I simply don't have time to bone up on the latest compliance fetish. Soon even the most dedicated and complaisant among us won't get past our front gate of a morning without fucking up half a dozen times.

I do adhere to my own rules, usually, and they seem to roughly match most peoples expectations of a fellow countryman. The difference is so small that I have yet to be incarcerated for breaking any law, and in fact I rarely get accused of even the milder forms of anarchy.

Am not one in fact. I am of the opinion, however, that society's role is to support the individual. Not the other way around. So let’s hear less about an individual’s responsibility to a purely nominal set of societal rules and a bit more about how our politicos can stay the fuck out of our lives.

[Swoop]

the law is entirely an electioneering waste of space aimed to placate the morons in our society.

The law will not even enter parliament before the election, so any promises are hollow. Intelligent people will see this.

[Dave Lobster]

Intelligent people will see this.

Heh heh.. because there's shit loads of those around..