The Evil Bastards come out of hiding again

[alanzs]

Oh Geeeeze... is he a bad egg or potato

PotatO, pOtato, tomatO, tOmato... It's all in the pronunciation.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Silly, silly people, never smack a child with your hands. A rubber hose never leaves bruises and, we all know, children lie.

My father used a folded section of half inch thick 1 inch wide leather, his father used a razor strop, his father used barbed wire.. as you can see... things have gotten better rather than worse

[awayatc]

Surely you are allowed to smack kids in self defence...???

[Swoop]

Good on the petition signees!
Creating criminals out of ordinary parents who give their sprog a tap on the bum is stupid, but nothing unsurprising from the retard Badford...
The "authorities" have enough power of prosecution, under other acts, of parents who beat their kids.

PS: I'm serious about the pirates. It's a big problem.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster?

[alanzs]

My father used a folded section of half inch thick 1 inch wide leather, his father used a razor strop, his father used barbed wire.. as you can see... things have gotten better rather than worse

Progress in action. This could be called "the evolution of child discipline..." Bloody fucking hell, we all turned out alright. Riding motorcyles, doing dope, binge drinking, fucking ho's, gambling away the child support on the pokies, smacking our no good fucking illegitimate offspring and their slut mum's about, so what's the issue?

[1 Free Man]

Some of us are from the old skool of thought where a good smack can do wonders. My old man laid into me a few times when I was a kid. I got a few good hidings. Dad was never out of place as I deserved every smack that I got (I was a shit as a kid). My dad never went overboard, and in a day or two things were always back to normal. The cops back in the day were well known to give a kid a boot up the arse, and it was all just part of the job.
I admit those years were in the twilight of the days of a good hiding from the folks, but kids knew their place, and did ya ever hear of kids murdering people or shit like that?
Today with the PC BULLSHIT things have gone crazy. Ya have kids running riot. Fuck ya have kids trowing concrete off motorway overpasses. Is that demented and fucked up or what.
Bring back the good old days where a dad could hurl his boot up the asshole of a little brat!

HEAR HEAR!
Sounds like your old man was from the same school as my old man.
Dad used to give us all a good thrashing about every 6 months JUST IN CASE.
That was just in case there was something he never slapped our arses for and he was just catching up.
Hard as hell on us as kids but we were best mates when I grew up.
As for me. never lifted a finger to my own kids ever. Needed to break the cycle.
The best part is my kids have been best mates to me from the day they were born I didn't wait for them to grow up.

[Brett]

Sounds like the PC brigade making noise again....

I was raised with a smack if I was being a naughty brat...nothing wrong with me...(except for the nervous twitch).

I am vehemently opposed to having had the right of smacking my children emoved from me as a form of discipline. There is a SHIT load of difference between a smack on the arse for being a prat, and beating the shit out of a child.
Don't try and tell me I am another Kahui either. Those dickheads wouldn't care less about the law. They were perfect examples of neglect and abuse and no doubt, are the very product of parents who never knew how to discipline properly.

If being an evil bastard is what it takes to be a good, loving parent then where do I sign up.(only smacking when it is absolutely necessary...for some kids it is not a suitable form of discipline, and for others - such as myself - it is/was the only form that gets through.)

[Brett]

That is demented and fucked up. It's also quite possibly the result of a society that thinks violence is OK and actually kinda cool.

Oh, come on, someone blame Grand Theft Auto. Isn't it computer games' fault? What about fluoride in water? Declining moral standards? The breakdown of the nuclear family? A reduction in the number of pirates?

Dave

PS: I'm serious about the pirates. It's a big problem.

Or it could also be that we have a whole fucken generation being raised that have NO idea on what self discipline, self control or respect are. hey ve never been held accountable and probably come from a social back ground where they only knew ONE type of a 'smack'.
There is a big difference between a light smack on a childs hand if say they go to touch something hot or dangerous or a small smack on the bum if there are naughty.
Rather, their idea of a smack leaves their childrens' little bodies with fucken broken bones, bruises and the like. That is abhorent to me, and I would happily show those sorts of parents exactly what violence is by removing their still beating heart with my bare hands. (maybe I am violent because I was raised with a bit of a smack when I was bad??)
Of my extended family including over 30 cousins whom I see on a weekly basis not one of us who was raised with smacking has been in any major trouble. We have all had our spells where we were 'naughty', but none have any assault charges against us, none have been involved in criminal activity, none have drinking or drug problems. Most of us serve in the community in one capacity or another and ALL of us would do what it takes to help those who need it.

My point form this rant, is simply that smacking is vastly different to physical abuse. Also, to concede that not all children actually need to be smacked.

Yes, I signed the petition.

[James Deuce]

There's still the basic assumption hanging in the air that people who are against this particular bill are child beaters and those who aren't are angels with perfectly behaved children, that anyone who protests that Government interference in the private lives of its citizens is bad, is automatically pro-violence, and those who support the bill believe wholeheartedly in the phrase, "I'm from the Government. I'm here to help you."

There are no sides. There are very few who operate within the extremes that the proponents and opponents of this particularly poorly constructed law would have us all occupy.

[flyingcrocodile46]

There's still the basic assumption hanging in the air that people who are against this particular bill are child beaters and those who aren't are angels with perfectly behaved children.

That is because the typical active antismack campaigner is strongly influenced by emotion and less likely to consider a logical based debate without resorting to perverting it with emotionally charged twaddle such as the aforementioned baseless accusations of committing criminal acts... simply because in their little minds they figure that they are right and you are not... thereby allowing them to righteously commit otherwise criminal and morally inappropriate actions such as generating baseless slander and perpetrating character assassination that will likely result in damage to reputation and mental well being...

But that's ok.. because they are the good guys who are honorably motivated by a burning desire to see that bad things stop happening to people.

Perhaps if we kill all the strongly opinionated good guys, the world would be a better place... If I'm right then it would be ok to do it.. wouldn't it?

[flyingcrocodile46]

That is because the typical active antismack campaigner is strongly influenced by emotion and less likely to consider a logical based debate without resorting to perverting it with emotionally charged twaddle such as the aforementioned baseless accusations of committing criminal acts... simply because in their little minds they figure that they are right and you are not... thereby allowing them to righteously commit otherwise criminal and morally inappropriate actions such as generating baseless slander and perpetrating character assassination that will likely result in damage to reputation and mental well being...

But that's ok.. because they are the good guys who are honorably motivated by a burning desire to see that bad things stop happening to people.

Perhaps if we kill all the strongly opinionated good guys, the world would be a better place... If I'm right then it would be ok to do it.. wouldn't it?

Well!.. no objections and it's past midnight.. must be ok then.

Sleep tight

[Forest]

To make light of a serious subject.. The good ol' days.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo

I like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzKHQX59Wso

[Sanx]

Personally, I was against the bill before I'd read anything about it or heard anything about it. Why? It had Sue Bradford's name against it. Anything that spews forth from that harridan's mouth automatically gets placed in the "rantings of a deranged freak" category and gets treated with the scorn and ridicule it deserves. Pretty much anything said by any of the Green Party MPs can be guaranteed to be complete shite (although Stoner Nandor's announcements sometimes get quite amusing), but Bradford's simply beyond the pale.

And then my opinion of this Bill was re-inforced when Komrade Klerk decided to support it.

Green Party and Labour - fucking over New Zealand one day at a time!

[Toaster]

Emotive bullshit, maybe they can tell the difference between a smack and abuse, which is something you're obviously unable to do going by your post

edit, a re read makes it look like a pisstake

Well said mate well said.

[Toaster]

I'd like the law to be changed to let me smack other peoples' kids.

The other option is to take a hands off approach.

Have at least two kids... then when one is being a defiant little turd get the other one to smack em instead.