2008 MV Agusta F4 1078

[Big Dave]

And what would you know of 'this'...??!!!

Yerrrs - Only that I talked to The Ed about it day before yesterday.
And sat on the matte black and gold R1 we are testing at the end of the chat.

[Big Dave]

I must be huge then

It is why I didn't say 'me' dontchaknows.

[Drew]

Yerrrs - Only that I talked to The Ed about it day before yesterday.
And sat on the matte black and gold R1 we are testing at the end of the chat.

The R1 is without a doubt the roomiest of them though. Thought I was gonna drag the pegs when I first climbed on one, they feel that low.

[boomer]

NOBODY would get off the MV and say your fuckin whale was lighter! What the fuck is wrong with you? You say some of the dumbest shit I've ever read. So the MV turned a bit slow, (in your overwhelmingly race experienced opinion) very easily fixed by lifting the rear of the bike a few milimetres. And this is also reletive to the MV coming at corners a shit load quicker.

Why the hell did I click on "view post"? (Same principle as lookin at a train wreck I guess, I knew it'd be horrible, but couldn't look away. C'MON RICHARD:slap:

i think i weeeeed

[Hitcher]

I am wryly amused by comments about power-to-weight ratios for bikes that have shit-loads of the former and comparatively fuck-all of the latter. Where I come from, 10kg is the difference between lunch and dinner.

Most weights that manufacturers trumpet are dry weights -- including the rider too, I suspect. At one point I was almost twice the man that Valentino Rossi was. Even with that advantage, superbikes like the F4 have the ability to deliver infinity plus 2 more performance than I will ever need them to. Valentino, on the other hand, needs every advantage he can extract in order to compete with me.

[jrandom]

Why the hell did I click on "view post"?

I knew you wouldn't be able to resist.

Just like you won't be able to resist looking at this one.



I take it you've ridden an F4 and don't think that they 'feel a bit heavy', then? Do you really think that the Motorcycle Daily test rider would have written:

"Flicking the F4 from left to right you do need to use some of your own muscle, but it makes for a very involving ride."

if the bike hadn't had steering that was noticeably heavier than the current crop of Jappas?

The fact that I annoy the snot out of you doesn't necessarily mean that I'm wrong, y'know.

And, for that matter, I'd hate to think that your post, there, was an example of the great KB tradition of someone who hasn't ridden a particular bike ranting at the opinion of someone who has...

[White trash]

NOBODY would get off the MV and say your fuckin whale was lighter! What the fuck is wrong with you? You say some of the dumbest shit I've ever read. So the MV turned a bit slow, (in your overwhelmingly race experienced opinion) very easily fixed by lifting the rear of the bike a few milimetres. And this is also reletive to the MV coming at corners a shit load quicker.

Why the hell did I click on "view post"? (Same principle as lookin at a train wreck I guess, I knew it'd be horrible, but couldn't look away. C'MON RICHARD:slap:

I knew you wouldn't be able to resist.

Just like you won't be able to resist looking at this one.



I take it you've ridden an F4 and don't think that they 'feel a bit heavy', then? Do you really think that the Motorcycle Daily test rider would have written:

"Flicking the F4 from left to right you do need to use some of your own muscle, but it makes for a very involving ride."

if the bike hadn't had steering that was noticeably heavier than the current crop of Jappas?

The fact that I annoy the snot out of you doesn't necessarily mean that I'm wrong, y'know.

And, for that matter, I'd hate to think that your post, there, was an example of the great KB tradition of someone who hasn't ridden a particular bike ranting at the opinion of someone who has...

Fuck you two are funny.

Keep it up.

[Drew]

I knew you wouldn't be able to resist.

Just like you won't be able to resist looking at this one.



I take it you've ridden an F4 and don't think that they 'feel a bit heavy', then? Do you really think that the Motorcycle Daily test rider would have written:

"Flicking the F4 from left to right you do need to use some of your own muscle, but it makes for a very involving ride."

if the bike hadn't had steering that was noticeably heavier than the current crop of Jappas?

The fact that I annoy the snot out of you doesn't necessarily mean that I'm wrong, y'know.

And, for that matter, I'd hate to think that your post, there, was an example of the great KB tradition of someone who hasn't ridden a particular bike ranting at the opinion of someone who has...

Yeah, I read it.

So really, you're just regurgitating the opinion of some test rider and think that comparing it to you're aircraft carrier means you're right?

I've ridden one, was fuckin fantastic, must have been setup by someone with a clue cos I thought turned FUCKIN SWEET. ( and although I've been crashing a bit of late from pushing too hard, I think I'd smoke your lard arse one handed.)

Similar principle to the K5 GSXR with it's stupidly relaxed fork rake from the factory I suggest. Assembled so that retards who fall off a bike that IS set up...dont.

This puts you one step up from a retard when riding a bike, the rest of the time...

[jrandom]

So really, you're just regurgitating the opinion of some test rider and think that comparing it to you're aircraft carrier means you're right?

No, I got a few kilometres in on kiwifruit's F4-1000S (while he had it) and formed one or two opinions of my own in that time.

Also,

(a) Have you ridden a GSX1400?

(b) If you have, and you still think they're shit, perhaps you should see what you think after a go on mine, with the stock suspension twiddled as best it can be, a 190/55 PP 2CT on the back and some Pro Taper bars up front.

Yes, you're still welcome to a thrash on my bike sometime, even after that little rant of yours.

I've ridden one, was fuckin fantastic, must have been setup by someone with a clue cos I thought turned FUCKIN SWEET.

Well then, it's starting to sound like they come stock with not-so-great setup, isn't it?

The fact that they can be set up to turn well doesn't change my point - my point was that I don't think the weight difference means much, and that guys who bang on about it being a drawback after riding the bike are probably noticing the effects of geometry and suspension on handling, not weight.

Your assurance that they turn just fine after some setup tweaking really just validates that point, doesn't it?

I think I'd smoke your lard arse one handed.

Ewww, bro.

Firstly, that sounds like a job you'd need both hands for, and secondly, I could probably find something a bit nicer than that for you to smoke, OK?

Sounds like you could use a bit of it, too...

[imdying]

Ask for a lighter GIXXER, and the folk at Suzuki will hand you the Yoshimura catalogue. The wheels that come on the light MV can be purchased for a GIXXER too, carbon fairings can be made. Not digging at the MV at all, they're awesome and I'd love one, just sayin they weight figures are irrelevent.

Heh, I agree... but it's not really the same I'd be hitting that Yoshi Zero Fifty hard if I could... I think they built less than I have fingers and toes though :/

Well, it's very pretty and all that, but one day soon I may just be blessed enough to swing a leg over a mcahine that truly murders ANY MV in terms of performance, weight, speed, looks, sheer bloody exoticness (is that a word?)

Right here

This is a good time to point how much I hate you. You lucky lucky bastard you :P

I am wryly amused by comments about power-to-weight ratios for bikes that have shit-loads of the former and comparatively fuck-all of the latter. Where I come from, 10kg is the difference between lunch and dinner.

Ain't that the truth Says the hypocrite that was pretty pleased to get his SVs subframe down to 1780 grams .

[Big Dave]

Exnosticity.

[Drew]

No, I got a few kilometres in on kiwifruit's F4-1000S (while he had it) and formed one or two opinions of my own in that time.

Also,

(a) Have you ridden a GSX1400?

(b) If you have, and you still think they're shit, perhaps you should see what you think after a go on mine, with the stock suspension twiddled as best it can be, a 190/55 PP 2CT on the back and some Pro Taper bars up front.

Yes, you're still welcome to a thrash on my bike sometime, even after that little rant of yours.





Well then, it's starting to sound like they come stock with not-so-great setup, isn't it?

The fact that they can be set up to turn well doesn't change my point - my point was that I don't think the weight difference means much, and that guys who bang on about it being a drawback after riding the bike are probably noticing the effects of geometry and suspension on handling, not weight.

Your assurance that they turn just fine after some setup tweaking really just validates that point, doesn't it?

Must be the way you put it then, cos I read it to say you rode the MV and most would compare it to yours as feeling heavy. Curious, as you never eluded to the weight being perspective.

No matter, I got the rant out of my system for another wee while. It was a coin toss between what you said and Sensei's wanking about twins. I might have faired better picking on him.

Ewww, bro.

Firstly, that sounds like a job you'd need both hands for, and secondly, I could probably find something a bit nicer than that for you to smoke, OK?

Sounds like you could use a bit of it, too...

Cant smoke nothin calming, puts me to sleep and I wake up shaved.

[Drew]

Heh, I agree... but it's not really the same I'd be hitting that Yoshi Zero Fifty hard if I could... I think they built less than I have fingers and toes though :/

Elaborate. I have no idea what that is, and cant find it when googling.

[jrandom]

Must be the way you put it then, cos I read it to say you rode the MV and most would compare it to yours as feeling heavy. Curious, as you never eluded to the weight being perspective.

Mebbe writing a post while trying to finish working on something of a Friday arvo ain't such a good idea for me, clarity-wise.

I know the idea in my mind at the time was that the likes of the Motorcycle Daily reviewer saying the bike felt 'heavy' and folk wanking on about power-to-weight ratios versus Jappas was a bit misdirected, and that anyone who thought the bike felt heavy to ride was almost certainly noticing the influence of stuff other than it's actual tipping-the-scales weight.

And, s'true, the GSX1400 turns surprisingly well (when set up right, of course). I guarantee you'll like it when you try it. I was using it as an example of a bike's weight not necessarily being the main factor in how nimble the handling feels.

[MVnut]

The AMCN shootout featured the 312R (998cc) this thread is about the312RR (a 1078cc beast) although the weights are pretty much identical, the RR has another 16hp. And I have not ridden a GSX1400 but I have ridden a lot of standard and 'limited' MVs, also a 312R (among others) at Hockenheim and they steer and tip in just fine thanks. Drew, when you racing down here next??