New Zealand - The right to leave our country

[Jiminy]

YOU have the right to LEAVE!

As a recent immigrant, I agree with the spirit of the post. Tolerance is good, but every immigrant should also respect and adapt to the local rules and culture.

No, it's not.

Someone did a search-and-replace to change 'The United States of America' to 'New Zealand'.

Haha, well spotted. I also thought that the Southern Cross bit sounded a bit odd...

[jrandom]

What was I agreeing on? I didn't read the first post.

It's aiight, dude, we know you're not a details man.

[Grahameeboy]

Oh dear the doom and gloomers are out....

Amazes me how we make so much fuss about relatively small impact issues...so what if a muslim is allowed to wear her veil on the photo licence...it has a signature for identification purposes so easy for cop to identify.

[jrandom]

Oh for some good old kiwi blokes with some balls to kick all the PC bullshit in Govt and its departmental minions out.

*slaps forehead and sighs wearily*

See, this is the problem with brain-dead American fundamentalist rhetoric.

Otherwise-intelligent chaps like Toaster skim it, decide they like the general anti-darky sentiment, and start lacing up their jackboots.

All that is required for evil to triumph, etc...

[jrandom]

so what if a muslim is allowed to wear her veil on the photo licence...it has a signature for identification purposes so easy for cop to identify.

And then, some days, I just despair for the future of humanity.

[Grahameeboy]

As a recent immigrant, I agree with the spirit of the post. Tolerance is good, but every immigrant should also respect and adapt to the local rules and culture.



Haha, well spotted. I also thought that the Southern Cross bit sounded a bit odd...

I don't disagree, however if we allow say a Muslim to live here we also have to respect their culture to....I mean NZ harps on about being multicultural etc...and we cannot expect a Mulslim to turn into a beer drinking, rugby fanatic can we now...
So much for Kiwi tolerance and 'she'll be right'.

[firefighter]

No, it's not.

Someone did a search-and-replace to change 'The United States of America' to 'New Zealand'.

Did you read that bullshit before pasting and posting it?

The national character of this country has nothing to do with the chest-beating redneck drivel in that editorial.



You will note how odd this part of the search-and-replace plagiarism sounds.

The Southern Cross is not the Stars and Stripes, and is not used for the sort of masturbatory jingoistic nonsense that the American flag is.

For that matter, the Southern Cross isn't even a flag. It's a fucking constellation, a representation of which is used on both the NZ and Australian flags. And if you don't like it, best you don't move anywhere in the southern hemisphere...





Please tell me that this is a troll, firefighter, and that you're not actually as stupid as you'd have to be to paste it in earnest.

Actually it was just an e-mail floating around at work, funny how well it fits though, and yes it was posted in earnest, because it really actually is pretty fitting to the way things are HERE, you can think what you want , I really don't give a shit, I don't know of anyone else whose had a problem with these statements, and as for the redneck comment, I think you'll find it's not even nearly racist, just saying what needs to be said, if you can't handle it mate go cuddle back up in bed and make sure the cotton wool your covered in doesn't expose anything

[jrandom]

we

Who's this 'we', Immigrant Boy?

[Flatcap]

I don't disagree, however if we allow say a Muslim to live here we also have to respect their culture to....I mean NZ harps on about being multicultural etc...and we cannot expect a Mulslim to turn into a beer drinking, rugby fanatic can we now...
So much for Kiwi tolerance and 'she'll be right'.

Why not? They expect us to be teetotaling wife abusers in Arabia...

[Grahameeboy]

And then, some days, I just despair for the future of humanity.

Humanity has lived in dispair through the ages...it's has been okay for other Nations, even descendants of NZers to invade a Country etc etc...that is life...I prefer to live and enjoy our kingdom

[Grahameeboy]

Who's this 'we', Immigrant Boy?

We are all immigrants in time...I meant "we" as a narrative

[Grahameeboy]

Why not? They expect us to be teetotaling wife abusers in Arabia...

True but that is the "Law"...if a Muslim breaks the Laws of NZ they get punished...

[jrandom]

funny how well it fits

Did you even read what you posted? What did you think that 'our Pledge' meant? Did you have to take some sort of pledge? I know I haven't.

And calling the New Zealand flag 'The Southern Cross' fits?

Saying that this country has 'In God We Trust' as a fucking motto fits?

Have you ever seen any God bollocks on the walls of public schools in this country?

I'll say it again, that American fundamentalist ranting has no place here.

Christianity has done just as much harm throughout history as Islam has. Probably more. Attempting to paint any religion as integral to the fabric of our society is offensive.

I don't know of anyone else whose had a problem with these statements...

Perhaps because none of your associates have the mental capacity to read through to the end of that plagiarised rubbish and realise that it has nothing to do with New Zealand?

[Katman]

I thought our national motto was "She'll be 'right"?

Yeah, nah.

[kave]

Our Flag,
Our Pledge, Our National Motto, or Our Way Of Life, then you
are Highly encourage to take advantage of one other great
New Zealand freedom.

"THE RIGHT TO LEAVE"

Our national motto? We don't have one, although it used to be "onward".

Our Pledge? I [name] swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Queen of New Zealand, Her heirs and successors according to law, and that I will faithfully observe the laws of New Zealand and fulfil my duties as a New Zealand citizen. So help me God. The ONLY people who ever have to make the pledge as far as I know, are immigrants gaining citizenship, I've never been required to pledge allegiance as far as I can recall.

Our way of life???

Seriously this has to be the most retarded thing I have read in a long while. I sincerely hope you are an immigrant, because I would be disgusted to learn that you are a product of the New Zealand educational system.
I am all for encouraging immigrants to assimilate, especially as failure to do so will lead to increased racial tensions, and in the worst case scenario see people with views like yours, in power. What I am not in favour of is encouraging a ultra-patriotic fervour in New Zealand. Sinclair Lewis famously said "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross". Facism appears to be arriving in America, do we want to see the same in New Zealand.
We all know what the results of excessive nationalism have been in the past, why do some people continue trying to repeat these errors?