New Zealand - The right to leave our country

[sinfull]

Well You cunts should drink more bourbon, ride Triumphs and we should all (chicks anyway) run around naked !! Vote for me at the next election and i'll see that it happens !! fuck democracy, it don't work when money rules democratic EMPIRES !
Do it my way I'll see ya right !!
Ban all religion, 4 day working (week till the money runs out then i'll have you run one of the farms (if ya lucky it will be wheat farm) with a feul distilling staion on it, perks will be good) close all airports and build a wind farm on wellingtons, Blow a bloody great channel to seperate auk from rest of the country and feed the sharks in said channel (just enought to keep them there and hungry) and use the top end of the country as a penile (as in send all the pedophiles there) prison !
Awww screw it i might just start a commune !

Edit : was gonna fix the speeeling mistakes but fuck it i'm god and well fuck you speeel it my way !

[98tls]

Starting with the Kiwis of course.

Starting with my mothers next door neighbours,yes there Asians and yes they are truely nice people but they cant drive for shite,4 cars totalled in 3 years inclusive of one very badly injured motorcyclist that Raymond just "didnt see".Cant tar them all with the same brush i guess but.

[98tls]

Well You cunts should drink more bourbon, ride Triumphs and we should all (chicks anyway) run around naked !! Vote for me at the next election and i'll see that it happens !! fuck democracy, it don't work when money rules democratic EMPIRES !
Do it my way I'll see ya right !!
Ban all religion, 4 day working (week till the money runs out then i'll have you run one of the farms (if ya lucky it will be wheat farm) with a feul distilling staion on it, perks will be good) close all airports and build a wind farm on wellingtons, Blow a bloody great channel to seperate auk from rest of the country and feed the sharks in said channel (just enought to keep them there and hungry) and use the top end of the country as a penile (as in send all the pedophiles there) prison !
Awww screw it i might just start a commune !

Whats your stance on slavery?if nothing else it gets shit done.

[Mikkel]

Yeah, but Christianity wasted 300 or so of those years as a persecuted minority religion before being adopted as a convenient population-control mechanism by the failing Roman Empire.

I think the Romans were having a ball - I can understand why they didn't buy into the whole Christianity guilttrip until the hang-overs kicked in and the ones in charged needed the moral high-ground.

Islam was effectively a state religion backed by force of arms right from the word go.

You can say what you want about the muslims back in the day - but they didn't tend to fuck around when they wanted to get something done.

Regardless of the above, the separation of church and state is a vital principle of sound and rational government, which fact was recognised by the American founding fathers, and has been conveniently forgotten by the sort of people who compose the misspelled nonsense in this thread's OP.

Absolutely, but with all other sound principles they go out the window when people smell power and money. Idealists are too few and far between in politics - and the couch potatoes that are the potential voters are not likely to get off their arses as long as they are comfortable and even less so to enact change.

[madandy]

I'm not totally convinced the first post smacks of Americanism but clearly the author is a touch out of touch.

A couple of generations ago (and more) Christian values were certainly a fundamental part of Pakeha New Zealand and for many Maori too. These days far fewer people attend church at all let aolone on a regular enough basis to claim 'our culture' is a christian one.

'Our land' - Aotearoa really belongs to the Tangata Whenua not the colonising hoards that arrived in the last 200 years or so.
If a Maori had written that first post, it sure would have had some major points of difference but I beleive some of the assimilation issues alluded to would be more forcefully included.

Europeans failed to assimilate into Maori culture, the only real 'culture' that can claim to be of this land. The europeans had no intention of assimilating but did sign a Treaty agreeing to co-exist along side Maori.

I'd like to think ethnic minoroties could be welcomed into NZ 'culture' in a more pro-active way...this might help relive some of this cultural disharmony. I certaily agree that some are pushing things a little too far.

Can we not co-exist along side other peoples?

What is the real difference between one culture dwelling in a suberb round the corner and that same culture being a few hours plane ride away?

[sinfull]

Whats your stance on slavery?if nothing else it gets shit done.

Well my cousin robert seems to have things running his way over in zimbarbaricway !

[sinfull]

Europeans failed to assimilate into Maori culture, the only real 'culture' that can claim to be of this land. The europeans had no intention of assimilating but did sign a Treaty agreeing to co-exist along side Maori.

I'd like to think ethnic minoroties could be welcomed into NZ 'culture' in a more pro-active way...this might help relive some of this cultural disharmony. I certaily agree that some are pushing things a little too far.

Can we not co-exist along side other peoples?

What is the real difference between one culture dwelling in a suberb round the corner and that same culture being a few hours plane ride away?

Ok trying to think coherently here ! Faark the spelling !@
Lets take this to PD, seems everything is headed that way anyway (did i mention trucks)
One thing i will say is good on the Maori ! The English couldn't assimilate the Maori so had to Treaty with them, must have been becoming too big a cost to fight them !

Ditto with the proactivity ! Let them in the country throw em on a benefit and thats it Pffffft 90% would work harder than an aussi in his homeland mmmm should rephrase that !

Half the problem we will have here in the Near future is allowing cultures that have been warring for centuries come and set up communities ! Hello !!!

[peasea]

YOU have the right to LEAVE!

After Wellington not wanting to offend other cultures
by putting up xmas lights. After hearing that we are
going to let Muslim woman have her picture on her drivers
license with her face covered.

This prompted this editorial written by a New Zealand Citizen.
Published in a newspaper.

Quote:

IMMIGRANTS , NOT NEW ZEALANDERS, MUST ADAPT. TAKE IT OR
LEAVE IT!

I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are
offending some individuals or their culture. I am not against
immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking
a better life by coming to New Zealand. However, there are a
few things that those who have recently come to our country and
apparently some born here, need to understand.

This idea of New Zealand being a multicultural community has
served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity.
As New Zealanders, we have our own culture, our own society, our
own language and our own lifestyle. Our culture has been developed
over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions
of men and women who have sought freedom, even died for it.

We Speak ENGLISH or MAORI , not spanish, lebanese, arabic, chinese,
japanese, russian or any other lanuage. Therefore if you wish to
become part of New Zealand society, -- Learn the language! "In
God we trust "is our national Motto. This is not some Christian,
right wing, political slogan. We adopted this motto because
Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this
nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate
to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then
it is recommended that you consider another part of the world as
your new home, Because God is part of our culture.

If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like "A FAIR GO",
then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this
planet.
We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and
we really don't care how you did things where you came from.

This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, AND OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will
allow you every oportunity to enjoy all this. But once you
are done complaining, whining, and or griping about Our Flag,
Our Pledge, Our National Motto, or Our Way Of Life, then you
are Highly encourage to take advantage of one other great
New Zealand freedom.

"THE RIGHT TO LEAVE"

LEAVE

If you aren't happy here then f#@* off! We didn't force you
to come here.

YOU asked to be here. So Accept the country YOU accepted.

Pretty easy really,when you think about it...

Signed: A New Zealander

Bloody Right On!

Blingity, bling, bling, bling.

[Mikkel]

'Our land' - Aotearoa really belongs to the Tangata Whenua not the colonising hoards that arrived in the last 200 years or so.

The truth about land ownership is that land is owned by whoever holds power over that region at the time being.

I don't think anyone here consider the American Indians the owners of the USA. Going for the "we were here first" argument is a never ending circle that ends at the big bang and hopefully someone will stop the argument prematurely by punching the hippy on the nose and taking his land.

[SPman]

I'm not totally convinced the first post smacks of Americanism but clearly the author is a touch out of touch.

A couple of generations ago (and more) Christian values were certainly a fundamental part of Pakeha New Zealand and for many Maori too. These days far fewer people attend church at all let aolone on a regular enough basis to claim 'our culture' is a christian one.

'Our land' - Aotearoa really belongs to the Tangata Whenua not the colonising hoards that arrived in the last 200 years or so. Bullshit! A country belongs to the occupying power - if you don't know that, you haven't been studying history over the last 5000 years
If a Maori had written that first post, it sure would have had some major points of difference but I beleive some of the assimilation issues alluded to would be more forcefully included.

Europeans failed to assimilate into Maori culture, the only real 'culture' that can claim to be of this land. The europeans had no intention of assimilating but did sign a Treaty agreeing to co-exist along side Maori.There was much more assimilation in the early days - my great great grandfather was fluent in Maori, as was my great grandfather. A lot of Maori attitudes have rubbed off on European sourced families who have been here a while - more than many may realise and enough to create a point of difference with non NZ "Europeans"

I'd like to think ethnic minoroties could be welcomed into NZ 'culture' in a more pro-active way...this might help relive some of this cultural disharmony. I certaily agree that some are pushing things a little too far.
That is the way that communities evolve - subtle (and not so subtle) changes wrought by immigrants
Can we not co-exist along side other peoples?

What is the real difference between one culture dwelling in a suberb round the corner and that same culture being a few hours plane ride away? Not as easy to sweep under the carpet????

I'm with Mr Random on this one.

[alanzs]

"In God we trust "is our national Motto. This is not some Christian,
right wing, political slogan. We adopted this motto because
Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this
nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate
to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then
it is recommended that you consider another part of the world as
your new home, Because God is part of our culture.

I thought that was from the US?

Could this be another cut and paste error?

Or, as I suspect, and I am sure many of you will agree with me on this, it is part of the nefarious worldwide conspiracy of the billions of people who are attempting to infiltrate PURE CLEAN GREEN WHITE NEW ZEALAND and replace fat laden pies and trans fat saturated fush and chups with, NO, DON'T SAY IT, RICE? Ahhhhhhhhh noooooo.........

If we had a queen, God save her and quickly. Oh, we do have a Queen....

[peasea]

I'm not totally convinced the first post smacks of Americanism but clearly the author is a touch out of touch.

A couple of generations ago (and more) Christian values were certainly a fundamental part of Pakeha New Zealand and for many Maori too. These days far fewer people attend church at all let aolone on a regular enough basis to claim 'our culture' is a christian one.

'Our land' - Aotearoa really belongs to the Tangata Whenua not the colonising hoards that arrived in the last 200 years or so.
If a Maori had written that first post, it sure would have had some major points of difference but I beleive some of the assimilation issues alluded to would be more forcefully included.

Europeans failed to assimilate into Maori culture, the only real 'culture' that can claim to be of this land. The europeans had no intention of assimilating but did sign a Treaty agreeing to co-exist along side Maori.

I'd like to think ethnic minoroties could be welcomed into NZ 'culture' in a more pro-active way...this might help relive some of this cultural disharmony. I certaily agree that some are pushing things a little too far.

Can we not co-exist along side other peoples?

What is the real difference between one culture dwelling in a suberb round the corner and that same culture being a few hours plane ride away?

Could it not be suggested that the term "Our Land" can be used the conquering force? It's been the way of the world since....ages ago.

[Grahameeboy]

True.

But just wait, we already have 'Maori Drivers Licences'

Next the 'other' types will want laws bent to suit THIER agendas - refusing to expose face for licence check yadda yadda yadda....

In the whole scheme of things I suspect this potential issue would be either a minor threat and / or of little real impact.

[sinfull]

[SIZE="5"]Or, as I am on this attempt to infiltrate PURE fat trans
If we had a queen Oh, we do have a Queen....

Ewwwwww . Trans atlantic queen fest !!!

[Hitcher]

It `s happening more and more to western countries...a slow rot that gradually takes over the host country until it`s original identity and customs disappear.

Name two such countries.