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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    In Northern Ireland it was not that simple and they co-exist now
    Only because the Yanks stopped funding the IRA after September 11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatcap View Post
    Only because the Yanks stopped funding the IRA after September 11
    They must have fired blanks for a few years then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmoot View Post
    Biggest bullshit I've ever read.
    Your so-called "own culture" is British colonisation. The real New Zealand culture was stamped down the moment you immigrants from Britain set foot on this land. Those who sought freedom were killed and stamped as Maori cannibals.
    I'd rather have 1000 burqa-wearing arabic-speaking immigrants that works their asses off and pays their taxes, than 10 "new zealanders" that bludge the dole or ones that skip the tasman ditch to Australia for better money.

    You can't eat 'national pride', but you CAN eat chinese food.

    Your Nationality concept is skewed and bigotted.
    ...And worse if it is really a copy-and-paste job from some Americans.
    This is a great unconscious irony.
    You use a racist attack when you accuse someone else of racism!
    Did it hurt when you stood on yer own tongue, Dude?!

    What an idjut...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmoot View Post
    Beat this...

    Working, middle-class, chinese, under-25, bike-rider, honda car boy-racer, heterosexual, recent graduate.

    Beats your score by 5

    Immigrants may have the upper hands at times, but not chinese.
    There, I SAID THE C WORD!


    The government targeting order is as follows:
    - Immigrants - Chinese (arriving after 1890 AD)
    - John Key
    - Immigrants - Asian origin (arriving after 1990)
    - Immigration Officers and Corrections Department Staff Members
    - Immigrants - Pacific Islands (post 2005 and overstayers, diabetics excluded)
    - Immigrants - Misc. other than UK and Germany
    - Native New Zealand (i.e., Pakeha)
    - The Holy Maori Tribes (Caution: may trigger possibility of referendums and change of government)

    So bearing in mind your (racist) attack on white NZers, how do you feel about several millennia of Chinese colonialism? Their latest effort in Tibet is a lot more racist and genocidal than the Brits ever dreamed of...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    So bearing in mind your (racist) attack on white NZers, how do you feel about several millennia of Chinese colonialism? Their latest effort in Tibet is a lot more racist and genocidal than the Brits ever dreamed of...
    You cant say that,its only white NZers that are racist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 98tls View Post
    You cant say that,its only white NZers that are racist.
    I'm white, and a NZer.

    I got my head cracked on several occasions in 1981 for trying to do something about racism.

    Was I wasting my time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    So bearing in mind your (racist) attack on white NZers, how do you feel about several millennia of Chinese colonialism? Their latest effort in Tibet is a lot more racist and genocidal than the Brits ever dreamed of...
    what's racist about asian killing asian?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Marmoot
    Originally Posted by Marmoot
    Biggest bullshit I've ever read.
    Your so-called "own culture" is British colonisation. The real New Zealand culture was stamped down the moment you immigrants from Britain set foot on this land. Those who sought freedom were killed and stamped as Maori cannibals.
    I'd rather have 1000 burqa-wearing arabic-speaking immigrants that works their asses off and pays their taxes, than 10 "new zealanders" that bludge the dole or ones that skip the tasman ditch to Australia for better money.

    You can't eat 'national pride', but you CAN eat chinese food.

    Your Nationality concept is skewed and bigotted.
    ...And worse if it is really a copy-and-paste job from some Americans.
    This is a great unconscious irony.
    You use a racist attack when you accuse someone else of racism!
    Did it hurt when you stood on yer own tongue, Dude?!

    What an idjut...
    1. What is an 'idjut'?
    2. Please read my original post in context as a reply to the first post of this thread, to point out the writer's anomalies.
    3. Where was the racist element in that post?

    It seems to me you might have been offended by your self-perceived "racism attack" against Pakeha simply because the post wasn't authored by a Pakeha while the content pointed out a blemish in NZ Pakeha history?

    It also seems that your ability to relate your responses (x2) to my posts and their contexts simply lacking.
    Perhaps you need to stop smoking your ganja cigar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatcap View Post
    Only because the Yanks stopped funding the IRA after September 11
    Nop cause the IRA had basically handed all guns in by then...the Sinn Fein were the ones who used the religious angle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    I'm white, and a NZer.

    I got my head cracked on several occasions in 1981 for trying to do something about racism.

    Was I wasting my time?
    No...................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmoot View Post
    what's racist about asian killing asian?
    So the Chinese genocide is OK based on the fact it's only Asians killing Asians?
    Are you saying that there is bo racial or cultural difference between China & Tibet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmoot View Post
    1. What is an 'idjut'?
    2. Please read my original post in context as a reply to the first post of this thread, to point out the writer's anomalies.
    3. Where was the racist element in that post?

    It seems to me you might have been offended by your self-perceived "racism attack" against Pakeha simply because the post wasn't authored by a Pakeha while the content pointed out a blemish in NZ Pakeha history?

    It also seems that your ability to relate your responses (x2) to my posts and their contexts simply lacking.
    Perhaps you need to stop smoking your ganja cigar
    You use a line like:

    "Your so-called "own culture" is British colonisation."

    ...and claim it isn't racist?

    You are an idjut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    So the Chinese genocide is OK based on the fact it's only Asians killing Asians?
    Are you saying that there is bo racial or cultural difference between China & Tibet?
    My question is, where is the RACISM in Asian killing Asian?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    You use a line like:

    "Your so-called "own culture" is British colonisation."

    ...and claim it isn't racist?

    You are an idjut.
    1. What the fuck is an "idjut"?

    2. The "own culture" refers to the perceived "NZ Culture" written in the first post of this thread, in which they claim that the current culture is native to NZ and that every immigrants should not retain their rights to their culture when they step on NZ soil, while the reality is that even this "NZ own culture" he talked about is an Immigrant Culture brought by colonist that failed to integrate/assimilate/whatever into the NZ society.
    I wasn't talking about your (i.e., Oscar's) culture. Nobody fucking cares about your (i.e., Oscar's) real culture...it has never been featured in this thread.

    Stop thinking that everyone is talking about you. The truth is no one cares.

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    if you still don't understand this post, you might be an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmoot View Post
    1. What the fuck is an "idjut"?
    A phonetic spelling of idiot. Should have been fairly obvious.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmoot View Post
    2. The "own culture" refers to the perceived "NZ Culture" written in the first post of this thread, in which they claim that the current culture is native to NZ and that every immigrants should not retain their rights to their culture when they step on NZ soil, while the reality is that even this "NZ own culture" he talked about is an Immigrant Culture brought by colonist that failed to integrate/assimilate/whatever into the NZ society.
    I wasn't talking about your (i.e., Oscar's) culture. Nobody fucking cares about your (i.e., Oscar's) real culture...it has never been featured in this thread.
    Whether or not Maori had a cohesive culture prior to colonisation is debatable. There were certainly many differences in language and practices from one iwi to another. And they spent half of their time wiping each other out for fun. When white colonists got here, they found a feudal stone-age culture with no written word, where cannabalism, slavery and internecine wars were commonplace. The colonists, with a fair amount of legitimacy, felt their culture was superior and tried to force it on the inhabitants. Whether that was right or wrong is not relevant - it happened.

    The dominant NZ culture today is a combination of white european beliefs and ideals evolved from Victorian English morals, combined with a smattering of Maori and polynesian customs. If you want to abandon that culture, you're more than welcome. Turn off the computer, give away your bike, throw away your clothes and tools, build a mud hut, weave some flax skirts and catch fish from a canoe you've shaped using nothing more than a sharpened store.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmoot View Post
    My question is, where is the RACISM in Asian killing Asian
    The racism isn't in the act of killing, but rather in your grouping together of two distinct cultures and ethnic groups under the term asian, presumably because they all have slitty eyes. Tibetans and Han Chinese are quite different; different language, different culture, different ethnic and dominant genetic makeup. To describe both ethnic Tibetans and Han Chinese as 'asian' and assume therefore that they're the same is analagous to me claiming there's no difference between Maori and Tongans, for instance.

    Which is all a bit idjutic.

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