Fleeing biker kills HP officer - Gets life (Oklahoma)

[davereid]

Good to see that heavy penalties have stopped americans fleeing police.
(Or does it just make 'em go harder ?)

[Finn]

Well he'll have plenty of time to think about his actions while pillioning some big sweaty black man in jail.

[Horse]

I love the fact someone said this will happen here if you vote for the greens. LOL. This is what happens when you vote for someone to "get tough" on crime.

[EJT]

and by the way, you are wrong, sir. Murder in the 2nd degree does not have to have intent. Murder in the first degree does.

The felony murder rule is a legal doctrine current in some common law countries that broadens the crime of murder in two ways. First, when a victim dies accidentally or without specific intent in the course of an applicable felony, it increases what might have been manslaughter (or even a simple tort) to murder. Second, it makes any participant in such a felony criminally responsible for any deaths that occur during or in furtherance of that felony. While there is some debate about the original scope of the rule, modern interpretations typically require that the felony be an obviously dangerous one, or one committed in an obviously dangerous manner. For this reason, the felony murder rule is often justified by its supporters as a means of deterring dangerous felonies

Well put cmk. By the way - gidday from NZ

[EJT]

I love the fact someone said this will happen here if you vote for the greens. LOL. This is what happens when you vote for someone to "get tough" on crime.

Agreed. It will be interesting to see how many of those that are critical of this decision and the length of time given to the biker inside actually support the argument in this country on tougher sentencing and getting tough on crime.

[scumdog]

and by the way, you are wrong, sir. Murder in the 2nd degree does not have to have intent. Murder in the first degree does.

The felony murder rule is a legal doctrine current in some common law countries that broadens the crime of murder in two ways. First, when a victim dies accidentally or without specific intent in the course of an applicable felony, it increases what might have been manslaughter (or even a simple tort) to murder. Second, it makes any participant in such a felony criminally responsible for any deaths that occur during or in furtherance of that felony. While there is some debate about the original scope of the rule, modern interpretations typically require that the felony be an obviously dangerous one, or one committed in an obviously dangerous manner. For this reason, the felony murder rule is often justified by its supporters as a means of deterring dangerous felonies

Would that we had a similar law, we could use it for the Titahi Bay incident amongst others.


It might not stop the incidents but by shit, the offender would have a loooong time to think of what he had done.

Did anybody see the Wanaka crash case where two dead = driver gets a year home-D. and 4 years disqualy. (from memory)

Really sending out a message there eh?

[chrisso]

Oklahoma has some of the most fucked up laws in the US. Get caught with 0.5 grams of Pot & you can get life.

[scumdog]

Oklahoma has some of the most fucked up laws in the US. Get caught with 0.5 grams of Pot & you can get life.

As long as you know that before you go there I can't see the problem.

Don't like it? Don't go there.

[jrandom]

[SixPackBack]

As long as you know that before you go there I can't see the problem.

Don't like it? Don't go there.

How does that make an archaic law reasonable?

[scumdog]

How does that make an archaic law reasonable?

Who said it was reasonable??

And why does it HAVE to be reasonable??

Hell, go to certain countries and they cut off yor hand if you steal a carton of smokes.

Or shoot you for having drugs

Or cane you for dropping some litter.

Or give you 12months home detention for killing two people by driving like a dick.

[Owl]

No sympathy for said bike thief here. I think we could learn a thing or two from these Oklahomaites, Oklahomo's, Okkies or whatever they call themselves!

[SixPackBack]

Who said it was reasonable??

And why does it HAVE to be reasonable??

Hell, go to certain countries and they cut off yor hand if you steal a carton of smokes.

Or shoot you for having drugs

Or cane you for dropping some litter.

Or give you 12months home detention for killing two people by driving like a dick.

Where you that cynical before becoming a copper?........all of those listed examples are unreasonable in the extreme. Best we all do what we can to change them, and you are in a better position than most to effect change and be 'reasonable'

[scumdog]

Where you that cynical before becoming a copper?........all of those listed examples are unreasonable in the extreme. Best we all do what we can to change them, and you are in a better position than most to effect change and be 'reasonable'

Had a black-belt in cynicism since my teens - my way of getting through life without too many nasty surprises.

Being a Pollyanna must suck when life throws a curly one..

[SixPackBack]

Had a black-belt in cynicism since my teens - my way of getting through life without too many nasty surprises.

Being a Pollyanna must suck when life throws a curly one..

"[from dictionary.com]-A person whose outlook is scornfully and often habitually negative."..........hardly sounds like the most positive mind-set, and I fail to see how it protects from nasty surprises

'course you could choose to be a realist....works for me!