The Clash or The Ram-ones?

**Number One** · 29th July 2008, 15:21

Originally Posted by Laava

Wash your mouth! Don't care which side you use!

Don't hold back tell us how you really feel

**The Pastor** · 29th July 2008, 15:44

woah the clash are taking a considerable lead.

**Katman** · 29th July 2008, 16:07

The Clash

Saw them live at the Logan Campbell Centre in 82.

Edit: Video removed - don't know why it wouldn't play.

**vifferman** · 29th July 2008, 17:44

Originally Posted by vifferman

Why is it?
What difference will it make to anyone?

Originally Posted by renegade master

Dose it matter old man?

So you agree with me then.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 29th July 2008, 17:48

Originally Posted by avgas

both are rubbish - but the ramones have the better t-shirts.
What you need is a holiday in cambodia, where you do what your told.

I see you've been to school for a year or two.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 29th July 2008, 18:01

Originally Posted by The Redneck

Neither...both are 100% bona-fido crap....DOGSHIT!

Trace Adkins is better than both of them...or for that matter any other country artist! or any other artist....shit in my personal opinion I am better than both of them....that is purely my own opinion and is not a proven fact!

THe complete pointlessness of arguing about music is illustrated nicely in this post. The Clash and the Ramones were both fantastic bands. Having said that The last good Clash album (and it is their best) was London Calling. There were flashes of brilliance in Sandinista, but basically they fell apart from there. I didnt like the Ramones back in the day, but Ive come to appreciate them. Their strength is their weaknss though: they did the same thing basically from 1974 till they retired in, what, 2002? If you listen to their songs (which I do, a lot) they are fairly obviously frustrated bubblegum popsong writers from the 1950's.

I used to have the same opinion of country music as you fairly obviously have of "punk" (whatever that means) rock. I don't have that opinion now.

My view is that there is gold in every genre of music, if you're willing to look and listen for it. Having said that, I'm yet to find it in opera, and commercial pop and current what they call "RnB" which is nothing like 60's soul music/RnB.

If you want, I could suggest some albums you could listen to. Start with London Calling. If you can, get the Ramones Anthology. We can take it from there.

And I just google searched/wiki-ed Trace Adkins. Might be worth checking out.... My alt-country collection has been stagnant for a while.

**MisterD** · 29th July 2008, 18:04

Ramones - good for the first couple then it all gets a bit deja vu.
Clash - good for a bit longer then it all gets a bit politics and then the reggae happens.
DKs - good for a bit longer again then Jello's screeching gets a bit much
The Damned ftw!

**HenryDorsetCase** · 29th July 2008, 18:04

Originally Posted by Katman

The Clash

Saw them live at the Logan Campbell Centre in 82.

Edit: Video removed - don't know why it wouldn't play.

bastard. not that i am jealous or anything.

I was going to the Wellington show of that tour and was riding a bike up from Christchurch that day. I missed the f**********n 4pm ferry had to get the next one which got me into town just as all my mates were coming out of the wellington town hall, ears ringing, raving about the best concert they had ever been to.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 29th July 2008, 18:07

Originally Posted by MisterD

Ramones - good for the first couple then it all gets a bit deja vu.
Clash - good for a bit longer then it all gets a bit politics and then the reggae happens.
DKs - good for a bit longer again then Jello's screeching gets a bit much
The Damned ftw!

not to mention the ugly ugly inter-band law suits between AT/Jello and the rest of them. Not cool

I havent listened to the Damned in years. I've got "New Rose" somewhere. And it must be time to resurrect Talking Heads, surely (given the revival of interest in the 80's: I hope they dont but the money might make it happen)

**Gubb** · 29th July 2008, 18:32

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

I see you've been to school for a year or two.

You think you've seen it all?

**Trudes** · 29th July 2008, 19:10

I'm a definite Clash girl.

**riffer** · 29th July 2008, 19:22

Saw them both live back when they were both good.

My vote goes to the Ramones but only just.

While The Clash were technically better songwriters, there's still a part of me that can't get over Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us.

Long live three chord thrash.