EJK What do you mean by heel gear shifter? Probably a stupid question. I just change gears with the front of the left foot. Is it better to use the heel?
L-Plate Rider
EJK What do you mean by heel gear shifter? Probably a stupid question. I just change gears with the front of the left foot. Is it better to use the heel?
Fair weather rider
+1 ^Originally Posted by Devil
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i think he's giving you shit m8
plastic fabricator/welder here if you need a hand ! will work for beer/bourbon/booze
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Has left the building
Nah he's not...they do have a "heel shift".
Re running in a Scorpio Z...just ride the thing,don't labour it and don't red line the wee beasty and change gears plenty many times. Choose a road with plenty of twisties etc as it'll "make you" do all of the above.
The manual is a bit challenged for these bikes so your best bet is to just go out and ride your new bike and enjoy yourself.
Countryside Pootler
Well done on your new adventure. Hope the running in is going to date, you'll be fine just make sure you feel comfortable and giggle a lot, it helps believe me
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Scooter boy
Hey Swedencamilla,
grats on the new bike
I'm really interested in how you find it, as I'm leaning towards getting one myself...haven't taken any for a test ride yet, haha, but 'on paper' it's got me interested.
I'm new to bikes.
Also, I'm interested to know which dealer you got it from and how much it ended up costing all up...if you don't mind saying? And would you recommend the dealer to someone else?
It's time...
Mine doesn't have one. It used to, but I sawed it off
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Swedencamilla, the heel extension of the shift lever is something that some old commuter-oriented bikes used to have. (I'm not sure why it was there, possibly to let the rider use platform soles?) You can safely ignore it. I sawed mine off because it occasionally caught on my heels. And, of course, because heel shifters are seriously uncool.
Regarding running-in, there are some people who argue that engines should be worked hard very early in their lives to bed in the pistons. This issue has been argued at great length on KB, eg in this thread
While I don't discount this theory, I think you are safer following the recommendations in the manual. This is what I did with my Scorpio and it runs fine (at 9 months old, 3000 km) and doesn't burn any oil.
L-Plate Rider
Thanks Badjelly - I will just ignore this heel shift thing I think. I need to concentrate on other things.
To the poster before Badjelly, sorry forgot your name. I bought mine from TSS Motorcycles in Lower Hutt. They were very helpful. With registration, fuel and all extra costs it was a total of about 4.4 I think. The bike itself was just under 4. I got the red one with the mag wheels. You can get the blue one for 200$ less.
I really like the Scorpio, although I have not got a lot of other bikes to compare with. I have tried a GN125 and a GN250 when I did the course. I have also ridden something else many years ago in Thailand, but I have forgotten which one that was. I find it quite responsive, infact the throttle is so responsive you have to be very careful. I have started using the clutch more at slow speeds. It is easy to do reasonably tight turns. I am doing figure of eights in a quiet cul de sac. One thing that is a bit frustrating is that there is no indicator showing which gear you are in. The gear box to me seems a little imprecise, but I will probably get the hang of it with time. I am still at a quiet street stage. I am just a bit of a chicken really.
I have been away on a skiing holiday, which turned to be more of a not skiing holiday given the wheather. Anyway I haven't had a chance to take my bike out for the last week and a half or so. As soon as this coming storm passes I will go out. I need to work on doing lots of gear changes and practice changing down before stopping.
Could another Scorpio rider give me some general advice. I am wondering at what revs and speeds should I change gears. Maybe give me just some rought indicators for even ground. Obviously if going uphill or needing to accelerate I would have to go down in gear or if engine seems to roar to much or revs very high. It is just that I don't have much to compare with as far as what the engine sounds like and it would be good to have some rough indication as to where I should be at.
Thanks you for all encouragement, advice and comments. Much appreciated!!
It's time...
It depends, obviously, but in the higher gears you want to keep it spinning at 3500 rpm or more. You can run the engine slower, but then you need to be very gentle on the throttle. Try this experiment (on a quiet road): ride along in top, let your speed drop until the engine is spinning at 3000 rpm (this will be 40-45 km/h), then accelerate reasonably strongly. Feel the pulsing, as the engine tugs a bit roughly on the drive chain? You want to avoid that, because it may not be good for the engine and drive train, and because there's not much power on tap at those speeds.
The sweet spot for general round-town running is 4000 rpm.
At the upper end, you're not supposed to run it above 4700 rpm for long periods in the first 500 km, so if you change up somewhere between 4500 and 5000 rpm, you'll be fine. (But if you find yourself having to accelerate in a hurry to avoid a car you didn't see, or something, do it, and don't worry too much about the revs.)
Once you've run it in and take it out on faster roads, you'll find it will spin along at 7000 rpm for as long as you like. The engine has quite a different feel at those higher speeds: much busier.
Hardcore Biker
BadJelly always has such good advice - cool
Just an observation from my perspective as a new-ish rider. My bike took some 1000-1500kms to really loosen up and for it to feel like it was reving freely. I have heard similar comments from other riders. So, you may well find that as you get some more km's on the scorp, you will find that it revs better/more easily.
(The other thing I did with my new bike was make sure that my brake and clutch levers were adjusted properly. I found that the original/factory position of the levers meant that I was stretching my fingers up and back to grab the brake or clutch. I adjusted the levers down and now my fingers sit more comfortably on the levers without putting pressure on my wrists. If you havent checked this out, TSS should be able to help you when you take the bike in for a service.)
And welcome to the site
DJ
Rev DJ
Scooter boy
Awesome, thanks for taking the time to let me know. I've had them recommended by others too. Will have to go and see them
Hardcore Biker
Hey SwedenCamilla,
Congratulations on the purchase of your yamaha scorpio, lucky you.
Hope the riding is going well and lots of fun
L-Plate Rider
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
How about this content ? anyone try this with good result ?
It sound a little real
Una Storia Italiana
running in is over rated with new machines... ride it normal and or like ya stole it, the faster its done the beter it will be.
IMO with biger bikes 200k veried, oil change, give it arsholes.
cheers DD
(Definately Dodgy)
L-Plate Rider
Thanks so much Badjelly and RevDJ!!! I read the article in the link a couple of posts above and now I am really confused as to if I am doing the right thing breaking it in. This advice goes against most of the advice I have been given and the manual as well. What do you think about the article??
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