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    Quote Originally Posted by ukbandit View Post
    i found this bit 87kw = 116.67 hp
    167Nm = 123.16 foot pounds
    nowt about the rpm bit, maybe it means that is its peak output
    Peak power is developed at 5,500 rpm
    Peak torque is developed at 4,000 rpm
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    Quote Originally Posted by ukbandit View Post
    i found this bit 87kw = 116.67 hp
    167Nm = 123.16 foot pounds
    nowt about the rpm bit, maybe it means that is its peak output
    Foot pounds?
    Pounds feet.


    "To calculate torque, you just multiply the force by the distance from the center. In the case of a large nut, if the spanner you use is a foot long, and you put 200 pounds of force on it, you are generating 200 pounds-feet of torque. If you use a 2-foot spanner, you only need to put 100 pounds of force on it to generate the same torque."

    Pounds feet..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by peasea View Post
    Foot pounds?
    Pounds feet.


    "To calculate torque, you just multiply the force by the distance from the center. In the case of a large nut, if the spanner you use is a foot long, and you put 200 pounds of force on it, you are generating 200 pounds-feet of torque. If you use a 2-foot spanner, you only need to put 100 pounds of force on it to generate the same torque."

    Pounds feet..........
    Multiplication is a commutative operation.

    distance x force = force x distance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
    Funny how the yanks spank on endlessly about that road and it looks pretty much like ordinary sports riding around here.
    Americans spank on endlessly about anything American. That's why they are called 'Yanks'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipshit View Post
    Americans spank on endlessly about anything American. That's why they are called 'Yanks'.
    I haven't sought any olympic coverage yet dippy - but what I haven't been able to avoid has featured absurd breast beating histrionics - both in meat and cyberspace.

    The only thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner.

    I was ashamed of some members of the Australian Cricket team for a while - because they had become such bad and snarley winners. Of course the whiney Indians still say they are.

    However they don't hold a candle to Oncle Sam's kiddies.

    You ever watch college sport? When they hold the camera in the crowd. Scary shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
    Max. Power Output 87kW /5,500 rpm
    Max. Torque 167Nm/4,000 rpm

    convert that to old-speak for me please.
    Is this a hardware or a software problem.

    Sorry...that's mechanical engineering not physics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    Is this a hardware or a software problem.

    Sorry...that's mechanical engineering not physics.
    Complicated by semantics.

    My OS dictionary says

    physics |ˈfiziks|
    plural noun [treated as sing. ]
    the branch of science concerned with the nature and properties of matter and energy.

    The quantification of power output would qualify surely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peasea View Post
    Foot pounds?
    Pounds feet.


    "To calculate torque, you just multiply the force by the distance from the center. In the case of a large nut, if the spanner you use is a foot long, and you put 200 pounds of force on it, you are generating 200 pounds-feet of torque. If you use a 2-foot spanner, you only need to put 100 pounds of force on it to generate the same torque."

    Pounds feet..........
    Quote Originally Posted by Forest View Post
    Multiplication is a commutative operation.

    distance x force = force x distance
    Pounds Foot if you please.

    The variable is pounds, not feet, there's no provision in the standard unit for more than one of 'em.

    Ffs, next it'll be "foots".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest View Post
    Multiplication is a commutative operation.

    distance x force = force x distance
    Fine, but it's still pounds feet. (Foot, whatever, but POUNDS come(s) first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Pounds Foot if you please.

    The variable is pounds, not feet, there's no provision in the standard unit for more than one of 'em.

    Ffs, next it'll be "foots".
    Or peet founds, perhaps?

    Now, let's go metric, shall we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
    Complicated by semantics.

    My OS dictionary says

    physics |ˈfiziks|
    plural noun [treated as sing. ]
    the branch of science concerned with the nature and properties of matter and energy.

    The quantification of power output would qualify surely?
    Nature, properties of matter and energy. Umm...so that's basically the building blocks of the whole universe. Glad I switched to Computer Science after a couple of years, otherwise I'd have to solve everyone's problems.

    Anyway, real scientists scoff at people not using the metric system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    Glad I switched to Computer Science after a couple of years
    Probably wouldn't be difficult to find a physicist or two quite chuffed about it too.

    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    Anyway, real scientists scoff at people not using the metric system.
    Fuck ‘em. I’ve got a good handle on what a pound does on the end of a foot long lever. Fuck knows what a Newton is…
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Probably wouldn't be difficult to find a physicist or two quite chuffed about it too.
    Fuck yeah...brainy dudes mate. By the 2nd year I'd had more mathematics than I could handle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest View Post
    Multiplication is a commutative operation.

    distance x force = force x distance
    While multiplication may be commutative - the vector product (x) is not.

    In this case - distance (taken from the centre to the circumference) and force being vectors - the following is true:

    distance x force = -force x distance

    Not to throw a spanner in the works - but one valid objection towards the Imperial (lb-ft) units compared to metric (Nm) units is the fact that if the gravitational acceleration changes between to locations the Imperial unit changes - where as the metric unit will remain constant.
    As such I couldn't possibly care one way or the other if you want to call it foot-pounds or pounds-foot... they are both obsolete. Newton-meter is the unit I'll stick to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikkel View Post
    one valid objection towards the Imperial (lb-ft) units compared to metric (Nm) units is the fact that if the gravitational acceleration changes between to locations the Imperial unit changes
    Except lbs/ft ain't correct.

    Might be common shorthand, but the proper unit is lbf·ft
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