One person one vote

[Toaster]

Correct. While in prison they are not permitted to vote. So why is that racist?

I agree, it nullifies his rather emotional response pulling out the race card yet again.

Just to add to the thread my 5c, convicted criminals currently serving a sentence have pretty much as many if not more protective rights as anyone else. It would be good to see them lose more than just their right to liberty in jail.

Taking the right to vote away from all people who had past convictions however would be a very difficult issue morally as they have effectively served their punishment and have the same rights as anyone else upon release into society.

It would be too simplistic to be fair on the myriad of different people and "crimes" committed. Would a 60 year old businessman be any less a valid voter because smacked his naughty kid 40 years ago and got a conviction for it, compared to a repeat offender (say burglar) who has a life of crime past present and probably in the future?

[Toaster]

Jesus Christ , it has been a while since you took the bike out

That was my politically correct forum friendly response. Hear my actual response after a few beers on a hot day after a good bike ride!

[jafar]

That was my politically correct forum friendly response. Hear my actual response after a few beers on a hot day after a good bike ride!

First we have to find a hot day

[Swoop]

Gerrymandering: Drawing of electoral district lines in a way that gives advantage to a particular political party.

This is the reason why we have a labourite sect as gubbinment at the moment. The boundaries of south Auckland were set up to benefit (pardon the entendre) the Looney Labourite sect.

I see, so then white collar criminals with masters degrees who rip off thousands of ordinary Kiwis should also have their votes devalued?

Taking a stab in the dark here. Are you referring to the recent conviction on 23 charges of fraud, of an Auckland City Council person?

"No representation without taxation".

The churches will need to comply on that one!

[Indiana_Jones]

Don't give the Untermenschen a vote!

-Indy

[Bikernereid]

Saw these guys at a Sca festival and it just reminded me of some of the peeps on here You just need to swap the Union Jack for the NZ flag.

[Owl]

Saw these guys at a Sca festival and it just reminded me of some of the peeps on here You just need to swap the Union Jack for the NZ flag.

They're not skinheads! They're bad fashion statements!

[Bikernereid]

They're not skinheads! They're bad fashion statements!

Not skinheads? Please explain as they look like all the skinheads I used to drink with.

[Naki Rat]

Saw these guys at a Sca festival and it just reminded me of some of the peeps on here You just need to swap the Union Jack for the NZ flag.

Oops, wrong thread

[Bikernereid]

Oops, wrong thread

Seems strange for Russel Crowe to have a Union Jack patch. I thought you all hated us Colonial Oppressors!!

[enigma51]

Seems strange for Russel Crowe to have a Union Jack patch. I thought you all hated us Colonial Oppressors!!

I cant hate you your to nice ......... even for a oppressors

[Littleman]

Let’s look at another scenario and I’ll try to remove much of the ‘prejudicial’ factors(barring ageism)out of it as people seem to stumble with this on the first step.


You are a primary school teacher taking 30 kids on a school bus trip.

Unfortunately a bomb is discovered on this bus and the only option to disable it is by either cutting the red wire or the black wire.

Bizarrely and luckily the bus driver is a recently retired demolitions expert from the army.

You find yourself in charge and having to shoulder the responsibility of how to deal with the situation.

Now whilst all the 30 kids are chanting in unison “cut the red wire! cut the red wire!” because it is a nice cherry red, the bus driver looks you in the eye and with a calm voice sagely says to you “cut the black wire”.

What are you going to do?

Actually have a vote on it?

[nodrog:Me]

What are you going to do?

id get the fuck off the bus and let the driver deal with it, hes the ex demolitions expert from the army.

[Dilligaf]

Why not extend that to the terminally unemployed or unemployable? If you don't work (say, for 12 months prior to the election) and you're not on sickness or disability benefit or a pension, you don't get a vote. Simple.

Yeah WHY NOT????
Gee, I guess this means that I am not able to vote in your system. Despite the fact that my "work" is voluntary and I would do approximately 25 hours a week working for other people without a paycheck means that officially because I am "unemployed" that my voice does not count.
Fine... teach your own children to read properly then

[Oscar]

I see, so then white collar criminals with masters degrees who rip off thousands of ordinary Kiwis should also have their votes devalued?

your original post is nothing less than racist claptrap

Yours is as much nonsense.
Your use of a cliched stereotype "white collar criminals with masters degrees" is gibberish. If they are actual criminals, and inside, then they can't vote.
Perhaps you'd like to present your argument in cogent fashion.