Get ready to hit your kids...

[CB ARGH]

Smacking works. That's the truth.

I can't see myself ever whacking/smacking somebody smaller than me, they're helpless. A simple smack on the bottom will do no harm. However what we need to stop is people giving their children a hiding.

There is no way to stop that. Even though I wish there was.

[Ocean1]

And the law allows for the above. It is very specific on this.

Skyryder

All law is very specific, that's not the point.

I don't allow any dissenting opinion in matters concerning my children's safety. Not the children's and not anyone else's.

[awayatc]

No, I don't have a choice...

Nope, whether or not smacking has an impact or not to me is irrelevant, I just don't agree with the need to smack

Don't worry,we don't want smacking being made compulsory......
But most of us like to have a choice though....

BTW..where do you base your self proclaimed expertise on ...?
Raised a few sons have ya..?

Same as the pope going on about birth control.....
Dont make up rules If you don't play the game......

[Grahameeboy]

Don't worry,we don't want smacking being made compulsory......
But most of us like to have a choice though....

BTW..where do you base your self proclaimed expertise on ...?
Raised a few sons have ya..?

Same as the pope going on about birth control.....
Dont make up rules If you don't play the game......

I have not said I am an expert..just my beliefs plus I am raising my Daughter as a single parent and her disability gives me a different perspective on things.

I don't consider the Pope as having any authority...

[RDJ]

And while the law may allow for what you say Skyryder in the sense that reasonable parents have not been convicted, considerable numbers of reasonable parents have been accused. More to the point perhaps, there has been no repeat no reduction in the amount of unreasonable violence, which Ms Bradford was emphatic would naturally follow from the legislation she so strongly promoted.

[Grahameeboy]

And while the law may allow for what you say Skyryder in the sense that reasonable parents have not been convicted, considerable numbers of reasonable parents have been accused. More to the point perhaps, there has been no repeat no reduction in the amount of unreasonable violence, which Ms Bradford was emphatic would naturally follow from the legislation she so strongly promoted.

Reasonable people get accused all the time, not just parents...that is life...the key is that those parents were not convicted...

It was not the Law that accused them...suspect the numbers accused has not risen much...perhaps we just hear of the cases more due to the new Laws presence...

[awayatc]

I have not said I am an expert..just my beliefs plus I am raising my Daughter as a single parent and her disability gives me a different perspective on things.

You are entitled to have a different perspective.....

Just like I am to mine.

I however will not forcefully try to convert you or people who think like you...

Wonder who the real bully is......

[Grahameeboy]

You are entitled to have a different perspective.....

Just like I am to mine.

I however will not forcefully try to convert you or people who think like you...

Wonder who the real bully is......

I agree although I would say that my perspective is probably not understood...but nor am I trying to convert you or other people or being a bully...no idea where you got that from but that's h=ow you see things which is fine

[Flatcap]

I agree although I would say that my perspective is probably not understood

I think it is perfectly understood - dogma

[Grahameeboy]

I think it is perfectly understood - dogma

Like I said "not understood"...definitely not dogma...to be honest..and this is not an offence...you are not in my position so would not be expected to understand....

[awayatc]

Reasonable people get accused all the time, not just parents...that is life...the key is that those parents were not convicted...

verbal diarrhea at its worst.....

Lets make ridiculous laws to tie up police resources, and then hope the judge throws it out without convivtions.........

You get used to everything, even hanging,
doesn't make it right though.
That is not life , not as we know it........

[Grahameeboy]

verbal diarrhea at its worst.....

Lets make ridiculous laws to tie up police resources, and then hope the judge throws it out without convivtions.........

You get used to everything, even hanging,
doesn't make it right though.
That is not life , not as we know it........

What is life then...surrounded in cotton wool?

Life as we know it is a lot easier than it has been going by history when Laws were administered at whim without justice..at least we do have justice.

[MD]

Hearing Sue Bradford on the radio this morning sums up why I object to her and her silly law. The deceiving bitch always uses words in front of the media that carry a different meaning when she talks about her anti-SMACKING bill. I've heard her use bash and beat plenty of times but she cleverly avoids using the word smack.

She said today "the people of NZ need to decide if they want to make it legal again to beat Kids" You stupid bitch. IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN ILLEGAL TO BEAT CHILDREN. You didn't pass an anti- BEATING Bill, You didn't pass an anti-BASHING Bill. Why, because they have always been covered by assault and GBH laws.

Some people need to use a Dictionary.
Beat= vb, to strike with a series of violent blows
Bash = vb, to strike violently or crushingly
Smack= vb, a sharp blow or slap with something flat

There is a diffence and our Police have for years charged adults for violence against children.

[Grahameeboy]

Hearing Sue Bradford on the radio this morning sums up why I object to her and her silly law. The deceiving bitch always uses words in front of the media that carry a different meaning when she talks about her anti-SMACKING bill. I've heard her use bash and beat plenty of times but she cleverly avoids using the word smack.

She said today "the people of NZ need to decide if they want to make it legal again to beat Kids" You stupid bitch. IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN ILLEGAL TO BEAT CHILDREN. You didn't pass an anti- BEATING Bill, You didn't pass an anti-BASHING Bill. Why, because they have always been covered by assault and GBH laws.

Some people need to use a Dictionary.
Beat= vb, to strike with a series of violent blows
Bash = vb, to strike violently or crushingly
Smack= vb, a sharp blow or slap with something flat

There is a diffence and our Police have for years charged adults for violence against children.

It seems that Bradfords stupidity could be masking people's view of the Law.

I think the ideal is great but the name sucks and is a very unintelligent name too...if it had been named Protection of Children Act for example I wonder if the Law may have been viewed differently.

Does seem that the old Law had some loopholes and the new one was introduced to fill the holes...but it has ended up being attacked instead

[MSTRS:Me]

It seems that Bradfords stupidity could be masking people's view of the Law.

Don't forget the stupidity of nigh-on the whole of Parliamet in voting through the repeal. When every poll held on the subject showed the public did not want to see this change. And it was supposed to be a conscience vote...