Tasers safe.. as long as you are in the police

[Griffin]

Clearly police need tasers.

Is it just me or is the way your post reads implying that the Police should have no more rights to an effective weapon to control criminal behaviour than Joe Public?

I, personally, think that NZ Police could do well to emulate American Cops. Give em guns, give big solid cars with fuck off nudge bars, give em the numbers they need to do the job and tell the PC brigade to piss off and mind their own business. I admire the no nonsense get the job done approach that the Americans have, they dont take any shit, they treat everyone the same until they work out whats going on and they demand respect.

Over here our tree hugging PC Nazis have it all tied up so tight that our cops cant even ask you questions without fear of their chosen career being severed. We have totally de testicalised our Police Force and we have a gutless justice system to top it off... its time Crims were treated like crims and Cops were given the freedom to do what they need to do... Tazers??? Screw Tazers - give em guns and let them use them like any decent American Cop would... a bullet is a dam site cheaper than 3 wholesome meals a day and sky TV for a 12yr (reduced to 4 for bullshit reasons) sentence.

[MSTRS:Me]

Griffin, you are out for a jog. You've just passed the Tui Glen Dairy when the cops arrive (armed holdup callout). They think you are the robber. Yell out to stop. You have no idea it's you they are talking to. Bang! One between the shoulder blades.
Still want them armed?

[Swoop]

Bang! One between the shoulder blades.
Still want them armed?

Only one bang?

More like: Bang, Bang,Bang,Bang,Bang,Bang,Bang,click, reloading,Bang,Bang,Bang,Bang,Bang!

"Stop or I'll shoot".

[SPman]

I, personally, think that NZ Police could do well to emulate American Cops. Give em guns, give big solid cars with fuck off nudge bars, give em the numbers they need to do the job and tell the PC brigade to piss off and mind their own business. I admire the no nonsense get the job done approach that the Americans have, they dont take any shit, they treat everyone the same until they work out whats going on and they demand respect.

Yep, Tazer guys lying on the ground with broken backs.....Tazer guys who look at them funny, tazer people who are slow to get the licences out on a pull over (white middle class professionals, in this case)...tazer people who have broken no laws, so bad they are carted off to hospital and sometimes die!
All that and more has happened in the States.
If they were used as weapon of last resort, after mature handling of a situation, it would be reasonable to have them.
However, overseas experience has shown, they will become a weapon of easiest resort, being used every time a cop is scared or pissed off at someone and I have no doubt, the same thing will happen here as well.
When you give someone a weapon as general equipment, they will use it with scant regard for guidelines and always find a way to justify it. When you have only your brain to manage a situation, you don't tend to go in so gung ho and fuck you - as most American police seem to have become..and the Aussie police, who are also armed. You will try to find a peaceful solution to a problem if at all possible and use force as a last resort.
That seems to be less and less the norm these days.........and with tazers on general issue, will become even less so.

[Patar]

About time they got tazers I say!
I'm sick and tired of people giving cops shit, they're doing a hard job that few people want to do, and the fact that many people go out of their way to make a cops job difficult pisses me off.
Too often you see some punk talking to a cop and the punk is disrespectful and goes out of his way to be difficult, he deserves a punch in the nose, but that's a nono so yay for tazer, that'll learn him.


And as for emulating American cops, fuck no. I don't want a 200kg cop turning up to my house if there's a robbery in progress, wtf is going to do? Sit on them?

[alanzs]

Cops already have guns (as do some crims).

I would far rather that a crim is tazered, whereupon there is a good chance he survives to argue his case in court, than shot (where there is little chance of due process).

As for crims having tazers, the same applies. Would you prefer to be held up with a gun or a tazer?

Thank you for asking. (I have used a bigger font to emphasize my point, so that it's clear) I would prefer neither but if somebody breaks into my house and threatens the life of my wife, kids or myself, and I am in imminent danger, I think I should have the right to shoot them fucking dead to protect myself/family. It'll be a lesson for the next asshole who thinks they can break into a poor defenseless person's house. Bang, Bang motherfucker, taste my .45! Crims should be living in fear, never knowing when they break into a house, if they'll get killed. Maybe they'll learn, and if not, they'll never be a burden on society or pass on their defective predator/dumbshit genes again.
Very harsh, certainly not taking into account the poor crims shitty upbringing and all the excuses that people allow others to not take responsibility for their lives.
If there is anybody who would rather not defend themselves in the face of imminent danger or death, I think they should have that right. That's what 111 is for. Tell the crim to wait, as the police are coming any minute/hour now.

Thinking that the police are going to come and protect me or us, is naive. I would think that most LEO's would agree.

While it is a harsh reality that I don't like, this is a reality, even here in NZ. There are sheep, sheep dogs and wolves in this life we live. We all make choices. I'm not a sheep my friend...
Thank you for asking.

PS - One shot is all that's needed, as I am a good shot, but two shots, as the first goes right between the eyes, and the second goes right next to it, just for good measure.

[imdying]

Griffin, you are out for a jog. You've just passed the Tui Glen Dairy when the cops arrive (armed holdup callout). They think you are the robber. Yell out to stop. You have no idea it's you they are talking to. Bang! One between the shoulder blades.
Still want them armed?

Leaning on unrealistic scenarios... is that all you've got?

There's a lot more niggers with sawn offs around these days, I say let the coppers shoot back.

[jrandom]

... that guy handcuffed and lying on the ground at Abany stadium with about seven of his (the cops) mates standing around while hosing down the guy ( on the ground) with pepper spray.

Pfft. Guys who pat waitresses' arses after drinking too much deserve everything they get.

[imdying]

Too often you see some punk talking to a cop and the punk is disrespectful and goes out of his way to be difficult, he deserves a punch in the nose, but that's a nono so yay for tazer, that'll learn him.

Yep... seen those little underage wankers thinking they're God's gift to whatever... Lippy to the copper... that's fine, keep mouthing off you little drop kick.... bzzzzzzt, fry you little fuck.

[alanzs]

that's fine, keep mouthing off you little drop kick.... bzzzzzzt, fry you little fuck.

Watch them do the "Tazer Shuffle."

[jrandom]

Leaning on unrealistic scenarios... is that all you've got?

I'm sure that right up until the last few minutes of his life, Jean Charles de Menezes would have considered that an 'unrealistic scenario', too.

[SPman]

PS - One shot is all that's needed, as I am a good shot, but two shots, as the first goes right between the eyes, and the second goes right next to it, just for good measure.

No...the second shot is in the ceiling....the "warning shot"!

[imdying]

I'm sure that right up until the last few minutes of his life, Jean Charles de Menezes would have considered that an 'unrealistic scenario', too.

It's also uncommon enough that you can name specific cases too... Small price to pay.

[alanzs]

No...the second shot is in the ceiling....the "warning shot"!

There would be no warning shot. There will be a warning call though, to the police. The warning call will be along the lines of "I have just defended myself and the intruder is dead. I am safe as is my family. Please come quick, the blood is ruining my carpet and the dead person has shit their pants, warning, it stinks."

[jrandom]

It's also uncommon enough that you can name specific cases too...

Would you like me to start posting all the 'specific cases' that went largely unreported by the wider media due to being perpetrated by the NYPD in alleyways instead of by the Met in crowded subway stations?

I suppose you'd argue that it doesn't matter because the dead guys in NY were all niggers anyhow, and probably criminals of one sort or another, therefore no loss, etc?

The scenario is not unrealistic.

Lethally arming society's enforcement agents as a matter of course is a step that shouldn't be taken lightly, regardless of how many niggers you'd personally like to shoot.