Annoying Christian sayings

[Slyer]

A teleological school of thought is one that holds all things to be designed for or directed toward a final result, that there is an inherent purpose or final cause for all that exists.

This doesn't apply to evolution as it is not heading to a final result and there is no inherent purpose. It simply points in a direction, it has no end and no correct or incorrrect path.

Teleological forces such as rational foresight cannot explain the outcomes of trial-and-error processes, such as evolution, and thus have no place in biological applications.

So your argument fails.

[jrandom]

Why Not push it on anyone else?

Because it's entirely fabricated and indefensible, and can only be argued for via unsupported assertions.

Which makes attempts to push it on anyone else odious.

[MisterD]

Because it's entirely fabricated and indefensible, and can only be argued for via unsupported assertions.

Which makes attempts to push it on anyone else odious.

...or alternatively, because a smack in the chops often offends.

[Radar]

Go to this website, print a few pages and read them aloud when bible thumpers come to your door.

[kickingzebra]

Because it's entirely fabricated and indefensible, and can only be argued for via unsupported assertions.

Which makes attempts to push it on anyone else odious.

And by pushing this viewpoint of yours onto me, what exactly are you doing?
As your view reflects your quote every bit as well as mine.

[Headbanger]

And by pushing this viewpoint of yours onto me, what exactly are you doing?
As your view reflects your quote every bit as well as mine.

Indulging in an online discussion is more then a little removed then some deluded twat knocking on your door with the "truth", Or group of twats trying to pass judgement on people for going about their own business.

But then You all have your invisible friend to give you strength and your god given mission to save the sinners from themselves....

[kickingzebra]

This doesn't apply to evolution as it is not heading to a final result and there is no inherent purpose. It simply points in a direction, it has no end and no correct or incorrrect path.


So your argument fails.

And yet the underlying assumption remains un-addressed, evolution is still approached as the fact of the matter, I can handle it being used as an explanation, but it does not stand scrutiny to call it the only explanation, and then base more conclusions for the new fact, based on an errant, or at best unproved foundational argument...

Building a logical house of cards, sure, it might look impressive, sound convincing, and genuinely work in some scenarios, but the foundational argument is inexorably linked with all of the following arguments, yet if it is not truthful, the house of cards falls in the wind.

[kickingzebra]

Indulging in an online discussion is more then a little removed then some deluded twat knocking on your door with the "truth", Or group of twats trying to pass judgement on people for going about their own business.

But then You all have your invisible friend to give you strength and your god given mission to save the sinners from themselves....

So essentially, what you are saying is it is fine for you, but not alright for me, because my fundamental assertion that God is real, is flawed, in your (humble) opine, but whatever you feel the need to do is fine by you?
When, BTW, have I ever knocked on your door?

One school of thought would say that All of Creation testifies to the glory of God, and against all of creation, what can I say that would be of use?
The same school of thought calls the preaching of the gospel foolishness.

For the sake of an analogy, who here is involved in kiwisaver?

[BigG]

You dont find God. He finds You, Saul on his way to Damascus, check it out.

[jrandom]

And by pushing this viewpoint of yours onto me, what exactly are you doing?

I'm not pushing my viewpoint onto you. Do you see me trying to convince you that your God does not exist?

You're welcome to live by the commands of YHVH (as written down by a multitude of grumpy Middle-Eastern men with beards) if you wish. Or, for that matter, engage in regular worship of the Great Green Arkleseizure or the Flying Spaghetti Monster (may you be Touched by His Noodly Appendage).

As I said, I shall only offer argument if you attempt to convince me that any of the above constitutes anything other than a private fantasy which you find it rewarding to indulge in.

Should you be happy to quietly and peacefully live by whatever tenets you prefer, I'll be very happy to do the same, and we can privately maintain whatever opinion we like of each other's mental capacity.

[Big Dave]

No win argument - Spanish Inquisition (nobody expects one) were on track - torture the poor Indian till the moment he 'accepts Jesus' - then kill him instantly because he was saved.

[NOMIS]

But then You all have your invisible friend to give you strength and your god given mission to save the sinners from themselves....

Invisible?? do you really think Christians walk around in there own dilusional world?
I mean come on i cant be I se him every where i go.

[Headbanger]

So essentially, what you are saying is it is fine for you, but not alright for me, because my fundamental assertion that God is real, is flawed, in your (humble) opine, but whatever you feel the need to do is fine by you?
When, BTW, have I ever knocked on your door?

Essentially what I'm saying is we are all taking the time to indulge in a conversation.

Your welcome to knock on my door

[Headbanger]

Invisible?? do you really think Christians walk around in there own delusional world?
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Yep, You nailed it.

And you condemn everyone who doesn't share your vision to an eternity of hellfire. Pretty arrogant system you guys have got going.

[Big Dave]

Yep, You nailed it.

And you condemn everyone who doesn't share your vision to an eternity of hellfire. Pretty arrogant system you guys have got going.

The eternal head job if you follow the rules has merit though.