Question on which Honda for F3

[CHET]

hey man just thought id put in my 2 cents here.I race a zxr 400 that i bought for 3 grand ,i havnt touched the motor and all thats been done to the suspension is change the fork oil and adjust it.My bike has been awesome and cheap and can be entered into posties and f3 (bang for youre buck).
Even with no real mods im still in the top three in posties,i dont think it matters too much what the brand is just get out there and give it a go.Thats all ive done and have been haveing a ball ever since.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Then buy an SV off Shaun!! Go pro-twins racing- it wont get you to the front of the F3 grid, but when you race against other pro twins bikes you'll know exactly how good you are. If the other Pro-twins bikes kick your arse, you won't be left wondering if its because of their budget

And you wont be forever pissing around trying to fix a 20 year old bike. Seriously, it might seem like fun, but you'll soon get sick of it. Nothing is worse then breaking or having problems on race day. Get an SV and spend time developing your riding, not your bike.

Amen to that. seriously.

[glice]

Arnt you alowed 250 2strokes in f3? or am I thinking of something else. how competitve would something like an nsr be?

[HenryDorsetCase]

if it has to be a honda and money is no object, what about a Bros 650? They are lightish, nimble and watercooled. also have 17 inch wheels.

real money pit though, and youre trying to turn a sows ear into a silk purse.

If Shaun will do an SV for $12k that is CHEAP!

[svr]

Arnt you alowed 250 2strokes in f3? or am I thinking of something else. how competitve would something like an nsr be?

For 12k I think you could build a 250 2 stroke (Aprilia, NSR, RGV-sp, KR1-sp) that would beat a pro-twins SV, although `club' type riders would probably be better off on the SV. But it would be an F3 bike, of course. For 30k you could probably make the 2-stroke better than national level SV's.
All of which is a bit moot until we see the Tigcraft Aprilia (and maybe some 450 triples) in action...

[Shaun]

if it has to be a honda and money is no object, what about a Bros 650? They are lightish, nimble and watercooled. also have 17 inch wheels.

real money pit though, and youre trying to turn a sows ear into a silk purse.

If Shaun will do an SV for $12k that is CHEAP!

I SAID it first mate--Cheers

[scracha]

Get started on the 400 for well under 3 grand. Crash it a few times and have fun. If you wanna get competitive then I guess the SV650 is the way to go but every fule know Suzuki's b the fags choice in F3.

[svr]

If you wanna get competitive then I guess the SV650 is the way to go but every fule know Suzuki's b the fags choice in F3.

Must suck getting your arse routinely kicked by fag racers huh?!

[glice]

For 12k I think you could build a 250 2 stroke (Aprilia, NSR, RGV-sp, KR1-sp) that would beat a pro-twins SV, although `club' type riders would probably be better off on the SV. But it would be an F3 bike, of course. For 30k you could probably make the 2-stroke better than national level SV's.
All of which is a bit moot until we see the Tigcraft Aprilia (and maybe some 450 triples) in action...

I want to get into f3 but cant afford much and was thinking a 2stroke might be a good way to do it. do people really spend 30k in f3. I cant afford anywhere near that.

[svr]

I want to get into f3 but cant afford much and was thinking a 2stroke might be a good way to do it. do people really spend 30k in f3. I cant afford anywhere near that.

You don't have to - in F3 you can spend anything between say $1500 and over 30k and still have someone to race against. Its only winning against national level bikes that will cost the big money.
I'd say spend 5-6k on a SV and keep it pretty standard - you'll have a reasonable, newish bike for protwins and club F3. If you decide later that you want to win protwin you can always throw another 5k or so at it.
20yr old 400s make little sense unless you want a built-in excuse and 2 strokes are only for nostalgic people that have warped memories of them...

[scracha]

Must suck getting your arse routinely kicked by fag racers huh?!

Gah...and I was thinking of joining the F3 fags. Obviously I'm not a butch fag like you

Chet and SVR are onto it though. If you've got less than 5 or 6 grand get a cheap 400 and spend another few hundred (cough) getting it sorted. If you've got the money then get an SV. If you're dipping your toes in the water then you can't really go wrong with the 400's though as you won't loose money on them. If you're a good rider in F3 it'll show regardless of what you're on.....and the reverse is true....sigh.

[lostinflyz]

I want to get into f3 but cant afford much and was thinking a 2stroke might be a good way to do it. do people really spend 30k in f3. I cant afford anywhere near that.

pending budget you can get a really well sorted f3 400 for about 3 grand (dont pay anymore unless its worked and got spares). if you got more then you get into the older SV's that have about the same snot as the really expensive 400's. if you have more then SV's or similar are your best bet. if you can ride (i.e. professionally pretty much) then you spend 30 grand as you cant just outride the competition at that level

You don't have to - in F3 you can spend anything between say $1500 and over 30k and still have someone to race against. Its only winning against national level bikes that will cost the big money.
I'd say spend 5-6k on a SV and keep it pretty standard - you'll have a reasonable, newish bike for protwins and club F3. If you decide later that you want to win protwin you can always throw another 5k or so at it.
20yr old 400s make little sense unless you want a built-in excuse and 2 strokes are only for nostalgic people that have warped memories of them...

In f3 it doesnt matter too much what you ride as everyone is relatively average as everyone is newish to racing or at a level they are comfy at and dont wanna go any faster. Theres alot of guys on alot of different bikes in the upper parts of the field usually. with pro twins and all there are alot of SV's out there which kinda distorts the picture but generally club wise it matters sweet FA what your riding. You might be a wee bit forward or a wee bit back on one bike or another but its club racing and who cares, i dont get paid either way.

I've found you notice who is generally around your pace and in front and behind and can gauge how your riding/racing against that. So ride what you like and dont complain (no one likes a moaner).

[Wingnut]

In f3 it doesnt matter too much what you ride as everyone is relatively average as everyone is newish to racing or at a level they are comfy at and dont wanna go any faster. Theres alot of guys on alot of different bikes in the upper parts of the field usually. with pro twins and all there are alot of SV's out there which kinda distorts the picture but generally club wise it matters sweet FA what your riding. You might be a wee bit forward or a wee bit back on one bike or another but its club racing and who cares, i dont get paid either way.

I've found you notice who is generally around your pace and in front and behind and can gauge how your riding/racing against that. So ride what you like and dont complain (no one likes a moaner).

That sounds good to me as I have just purchased a 400 to have a go at this racing thing. Looking forward to just having a good time in general and mixing it up with others at a similar pace. Should be fun.

[scracha]

C'mon then. What did ya get?

[Wingnut]

C'mon then. What did ya get?

Who me???? I got a CBR.