Absolute bollocks! (Self defence issue)

[McJim]

I think it's been clearly shown that cannabis does harm to mentally ill folk.

Then again, alcohol can swiftly and horribly kill anyone with a hepatic disorder, some people have life-threatening anaphylactic reactions to penicillin...

I find the argument that there are people who can be damaged by something insufficient. There are always people who can be damaged by something.

It's odd, how otherwise thoughtful people tend to abandon any pretension to holistic objectivity when certain subjects are raised.

Ban peanuts and shellfish.....

[Winston001]

It's odd, how otherwise thoughtful people tend to abandon any pretension to holistic objectivity when certain subjects are raised.

Quite right JR, the bastards. Why can't they just accept what I tell 'em.

[jrandom]

Why can't they just accept what I tell 'em.

Heh. I guess it comes down to differing experiences...

... we legalise another drug to add to human misery?

There's the problem, you see - the assumption that psychoactive substances add to human misery.

On the one hand, you may have your violent drunkard, but on the other hand there is the psalmist penning "wine that maketh glad the heart of man..."

We do well not to subside into dismal pessimism over human nature.

[Hitcher]

It's odd, how otherwise thoughtful people tend to abandon any pretension to holistic objectivity when certain subjects are raised.

Some clearly need better drugs.

[awayatc]

According to International Hockey rules , subsection 2, paragraph b ,
Mr. Singh was playing Offside, and is being charged accordingly....

[scumdog]

According to International Hockey rules , subsection 2, paragraph b ,
Mr. Singh was playing Offside, and is being charged accordingly....

And does the 'sticks' rule still apply??

[Goblin]

OK, now I'll stick to the topic. (And watch idiots shagging their cars on TV1!)

Bugga! I missed it.

[Goblin]

Not a great example.

PS - Apologies Gobs, you can come around and shake your...er...booty at my place any time.

You're right, not the best example.

Eeerrr. No thanks. Even my kids get offended if I dash from the bathroom to the linen cupboard but it aint a crime in my view.

Scummy is a great example tho Even made front page news.

[DMNTD:Me]

OK, now I'll stick to the topic. (And watch idiots shagging their cars on TV1!)

I saw that...wish I hadn't

[scumdog]

I saw that...wish I hadn't

I agree - it sure weren't perty.....

[DMNTD:Me]

I agree - it sure weren't perty.....

Bit of an orgy?

[Cheshire Cat]

Charles Manson.

He's a psychopath... he was crazy to start with.pot didnt cause him to kill or hurt people. his insane (but interseting)brain did.

[Patrick]

Balance, dude. You're drawing a long bow interpreting "victimless 'crimes' involving consenting adults" as drunk drivers. Think the intent is to control those that hurt others and those who's behaviour is likely to do so.

Didn't give it much thought at all - just a thought... But surely you don't think drunk drivers behaviours don't need to be controlled to prevent them hurting others???

Best option, too many dead heroes.

A hero he was - but was he "being" a hero? Nope. He was asked by a woman in distress, for help... who would not have stepped in as asked, just like the Auckland dude??? I don't think there would be many who would not have....

If crime isn't reported......then how can we know more of it exists.....?

Certainly we can hypothesise there is heaps of hidden unreported crime - but how do we test that theory? Where's the evidence?

Talk to the people - they will tell ya how they were ripped off, how they got a smack walking up the main street, whatever... their neighbours were, friends were... and none of it reported... It is real - sadly.....

There are FAR more violent crimes committed through alcohol than pot.

That is right....

In fact I have never heard of any pot user turning violent.

I have.......... Extremely rare, but it happens...

Wheelchair bound person then gets dragged through the system and sentenced to prison time. Who is the victim???

Wonder what the previous history looked like? Must have been real bad.

He's a psychopath... he was crazy to start with.pot didnt cause him to kill or hurt people. his insane (but interseting)brain did.

I wonder what role the pot had in turning him that way in the first place..........