250 vs Boy Racer

**notme** · 8th October 2008, 21:01

'Tis not the forum to discuss it, but from what I know (and narrowing down the Suby models can be tricky, year to year variances etc) the V-limited, STi RA is the cream of the crop.

The STI and STI RA engines are the same, but the RA engine has some little changes, eg the valve lifters which enables it to rev higher;RA engine has 7,800 rpm red line in comparison with the Standard STI that has only 7,200;The RA has slightly stronger internals. bhp should be about 21 more than the STi .The RA ECU has a fifth injector, and is lightened so the power increase makes even more of a difference. The RA has different gearbox ratios than all other STi's, for harder acceleration and less difference between gears.

I've piloted the thing a fair bit, and it's quite a thrill....until I get back on my much cheaper and much more factory standard motorcycle. Then the Suby feels slow as a retarded elephant.

**avgas** · 8th October 2008, 21:05

Originally Posted by The Flux Capacita

those subaru's (the good ones) are fast if you know how to drive them

The only time i have been in a 22B WRC - it scared the shit out of me

**NOMIS** · 8th October 2008, 21:14

Originally Posted by avgas

The only time i have been in a 22B WRC - it scared the shit out of me

try the st06 ( cant remember if thats what they are called ) but they where the highest powered jap car like 320kw now that smokes a 22b

**racefactory** · 9th October 2008, 16:55

You guys sure about 280 turbo cars doing sub 15 seconds 400 m? Surely it must be somewhat tweaked...

I've been to the sprints a few times and have never seen a stock turbo class do under 15.. ever. very very close to it but nothing like a 14.5. Then again, they may not know how to drive it properly but you would have to be pretty fucking good driver to get it under 15?

What i'd like to hear are some stories of de restricted 250 2 strokes vs tuned 350- 400hp cars.. now that'd be a good battle...

**vtec** · 9th October 2008, 17:34

A slightly tweaked (increased boost) evo/wrx/GTO/skyline/ should do low 14's or even 13's with a reasonable driver. 15 would be an unboosted car with an average driver.

One of my friends only got 15.1 in his twin turbo GTB wagon, was just too heavy. My brother in his modified Mitsi GTO got low 13's. Most vtec hondas (highperformance models) will manage low 14's to 15's.

Standard V8's (Holdens and Fords) they just weigh far too much, only do about 14s hahahaha.

I want a VFR400, easy 13's

. I get carried away on the 600's and they don't split anywhere near aswell as my CBR250RR.

Well modified turbos will be capable of 11's and 12's. My brother's working on making his GTO an 11 second car... but he's blown so much damn money on it. I'll just borrow my dads Hayabusa and put a 10 down to show him up ahahahhaha. He only got round Pukekohe in 1.16... I did 1.15.1 on my CBR250RR hahahahah.

**racefactory** · 9th October 2008, 21:16

1.15 on a CBR250 fuck me that's fast. You must have been standing that thing on it's front braking to get that time... How many meters out was your braking point for the hairpin on the CBR250 by the way?

**koba** · 9th October 2008, 21:27

Originally Posted by trademe900

You guys sure about 280 turbo cars doing sub 15 seconds 400 m? Surely it must be somewhat tweaked...

I've been to the sprints a few times and have never seen a stock turbo class do under 15.. ever. very very close to it but nothing like a 14.5. Then again, they may not know how to drive it properly but you would have to be pretty fucking good driver to get it under 15?

What i'd like to hear are some stories of de restricted 250 2 strokes vs tuned 350- 400hp cars.. now that'd be a good battle...

From memory:
Best motoring in japan pulled 13.8 out of a standard (then new) Mr2 turbo.
cant remember the other times but the fastest jappas were the special godzilla and GTO twinturbo MR , both in the 13's.
The "average godzilla was next I think.
It was proper strip, good tyres and pro driver situation.

**koba** · 9th October 2008, 21:39

Why is it cars have sooo much more bullshit crap talk associated with them?
Is it because a far lower percentage of cagers actually race the things?

"My 286.2554 Horspower (never dynoed but I got some wank stickers so thats gotta count and im never going to actually race it properly so I can bullshit all I want) Mitsushitbi Illusion does a (morebullshit) 12 second quarter mile.

I know it is kinda true coz the one on the fast and the furio....."

Blah blah blah...

I really do get sick of hearing it, it just doesnt happen the same with bikes, not with people I know anyway.

**koba** · 9th October 2008, 21:43

Originally Posted by munta2001

back to the point tho. my hyo i went up agains a heavily modded turbo pulsar, at the first set of lights i gave him a little to show i was interested. at the next set i tempted him with a glance and he gave a rev of his car back.. so i nailed it when the light went green, i heard his turbo spool up...then some valve bounce as he thrashed his car, faintly heard his BOV as he changed to second and by this point i eased off and looked back to see i was a good 3-4 car lenghts ahead. quite a nice win i thought.

Example, If he said escort - yes but valve bounce in a "modern" injected japper...

**koba** · 9th October 2008, 21:47

Originally Posted by speights_bud

Like i said, i don't really know, just what a previous owner told me, might throw it at a dyno when its all built and really see what it's doin

Example of what I know as someone who actually races bikes sucessfully won't be drawn on bullshit numbers that he knows don't really mean turds anyway...

**Whynot** · 9th October 2008, 22:13

Originally Posted by Jerry74

At least when we were that age we drove V8's not rice burners

So that makes you like 10-15 times cooler than them.

**scumdog** · 9th October 2008, 22:58

Originally Posted by koba

Why is it cars have sooo much more bullshit crap talk associated with them?
Is it because a far lower percentage of cagers actually race the things?

"My 286.2554 Horspower (never dynoed but I got some wank stickers so thats gotta count and im never going to actually race it properly so I can bullshit all I want) Mitsushitbi Illusion does a (morebullshit) 12 second quarter mile.

I know it is kinda true coz the one on the fast and the furio....."

Blah blah blah...

I really do get sick of hearing it, it just doesnt happen the same with bikes, not with people I know anyway.

I know what ya mean - Cb videod my last go at the 1/4 mile.
My step-son had some mates around for a party, showed the video.

After watching the 'old-skool' rods (my truck included) going down the 1/4 the video then cut to the Skylines, GTOs, WRX etc and the boys said "Hoo, now we'll see some REAL action"

After seeing the above cars turning times slower ( after removing their spare tyres, passenger and rear seats, one headlight etc) than my my 'old-skool' truck ( complete with spare tyre, trolley-jack, full tool-box etc) they went quiet and then turned around and said "what happened?"

.

**ital916** · 10th October 2008, 06:43

Originally Posted by BANZAI

XD

Yea ok, I only have single cylinder and 22hp. Plus I'm still a n00b...

There's no way I can win against cars.... (yet)

don't wanna be a killjoy yui but...if you wanna race and fuck around on yourr ginny even track days are the place to do it, the road is less forgiving if you fuck up trying to race a car, plus your more likely to be spotted by coppers acting the fool and getting ticketed.....and I know you've already been ticketed one acting the fool on your ginnyn

**BANZAI** · 11th October 2008, 17:02

Originally Posted by NOMIS

try the st06 ( cant remember if thats what they are called ) but they where the highest powered jap car like 320kw now that smokes a 22b

Is that s205?? It looks like awsome car to drive, there are so many good review of them

Wonder if it's faster than R34 Z-tune. Hmm but I don't mind both

Originally Posted by Drider87

don't wanna be a killjoy yui but...if you wanna race and fuck around on yourr ginny even track days are the place to do it, the road is less forgiving if you fuck up trying to race a car, plus your more likely to be spotted by coppers acting the fool and getting ticketed.....and I know you've already been ticketed one acting the fool on your ginnyn

Yea ok, I'll try not to kill myself from nexttime

That ticketing was so unfair! I was just filtering and did 100 in 80zone